[Dovecot] Please help me resolve why mail isn't being delivered to virtual users
mlist.only at free.fr
Thu Jan 10 23:34:04 EET 2008
Andrew Falanga wrote:
> If it's expected that the reader knows what the difference between mbox and
> MAILDIR is, then a "disclaimer" or sorts should be given at least in the
> opening page of the wiki. Something like, "It's assumed that the reader has
> more than a basic understanding of how mail systems work . . ."
did you see
> I agree and I did have more than a basic understanding. Prior to becoming a
> programmer, I spent 11 years as a network administrator and about 1.5 years
> of that time was administering e-mail. However, and very unfortunate for
> me, the extent of my experience working with e-mail for that time was all in
> Windoze and Exchange. Oh, also a package from IPSWITCH, can't recall now
> the name,
> but all of the work was done for me. One of the reasons I've come
> to resent the Windows world.
why? That's about all I like in windows... (I mean when the work I want
is done for me, not the work someone else has decided to do for me ;-p)
but I agree that people who "grew in a windows universe" have a hard
time getting behind the windows. not that they don't want to know, but
they have no idea where to start. but I disgress...
> The flip side is that how else does one gain the experience to do anything
> without being exposed to it? Very often I've noticed from people who know
> an attitude of, "Well, you shouldn't be doing this unless you have some idea
> of what you're doing." The problem is, without doing that thing, they can't
> have much of an idea of how to do it to begin with.
True, but you need to state this when you ask about something. The
reason is that many people don't want to learn: they just want to fix
something or know whether they took the right decision... so when they
come and ask "I've heard about $foo. what is it and how to do me do?".
Then "don't bother" is sometimes the right answer (which you can read it
as "that's not very important. you can forget about it.").
also, some areas are more complex than it appears at start. email is one
such domain. there are many protocols and standards (smtp, pop, imap,
mime, dns, ... etc) and a lot of confusion (how many people do you know
who can tell the difference between envelope senders and From headers?)
you are welcome to ask questions, but you need to show your motivation
by doing your "home work". you need to look at few places such as
wikipedia and google.
Of course, you'll meet what I call "angry" people in public forums (and
in real life as well). They will insult you (litterally I mean) and
treat you by many names that my mother forbid me to repeat. But up so
far, I didn't see such individuals on the dovecot list. and if I can
give you an advice: when you meet such people, either pass your way, or
try to have fun.
and don't get mad at us. we are just robots (you know Eliza? if not, run
Emacs and type "M-x doctor"). Whomever told you that we are real people
sitting behind computers lied to you ;-p
United Robots of Benetton
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