[Dovecot] OT: IMAP folder aliases

Patrick Ben Koetter p at state-of-mind.de
Sat Sep 26 00:45:13 EEST 2009


* Robert Schetterer <robert at schetterer.org>:
> Patrick Ben Koetter schrieb:
> > It seems that there is no standard for folder names that deal with typical
> > message classes such as drafts, outbox, sent, spam etc. At least there's no
> > common sense on a naming convention that tells how client should handle this.
> > 
> > Worse than this, most IMAP clients auto-create folders according to their own
> > naming convention if they don't exist. Every client introduces its own view.
> > 
> > Users OTOH expect a single view that makes it easy for them to find their
> > messages. They are unwilling to search in "sent", "sent-mail" or "Sent items"
> > for "messages that have been sent".
> > 
> > I doubt that software producers will adopt a standard naming convention if it
> > was introduced within a useful time span.
> > 
> > Has anyone seen an approach or a solution that solves the problem from a users
> > point of view? A server side alias list that maps to a server standard?
> > 
> > p at rick
> > 
> 
> Hi Patrick, i see no way to push coders to standart folders use

I do. I just takes a lot of time. Well, at least most of them would follow... ;)

> but with autocreate and global sieve rules you can implement a pseudo
> standart
> i use tbs one and configure horde/imp like tb does it, in my meaning
> big players have no intension bring up even a pseudo standart
> cause they want users to use their own mail services and server
> implementations ( google, apple, m$, etc ) and earn money with it

Yes, they want to. But they also want to create a great user experience for
those that do not use web applications.


> but as reality shows, if there is a good faq side for your server setup
> most imap users are smart enough to configure their clients

I know you and I don't mind to search the internet, read docs and try this or
that until we find something that satisfies our needs. But the goal I am
aiming for here is "out of the box". And that means "a good faq site" is not
acceptable (until I have to face reality...).

p at rick



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