[Dovecot] SSD drives are really fast running Dovecot
Rick Romero
rick at havokmon.com
Sat Jan 15 18:34:34 EET 2011
Quoting Stan Hoeppner <stan at hardwarefreak.com>:
>> Rick Romero put forth on 1/14/2011 8:29 PM:
> >
> >> And that's assuming a platter squeezing in 1TB of data at
> 7200RPMs doesn't
> >> get a comparable performance improvement to a higher rotational
> speed on a
> >> lower volume platter...
> >
> > Size and density are irrelevant. Higher density will allow
> greater streaming
> > throughput at the same spindle speed, _however_ this does
> nothing for seek
> > performance. Streaming performance is meaningless for
> transaction servers.
> > IOPS performance is critical for transaction servers. Seek
> > performance equals
> > IOPS performance. The _only_ way to increase mechanical disk IOPS is to
> > increase the spindle speed the or the speed of the head
> actuator. If you've
> > watched mechanical drive evolution for the past 20 years you've seen that
> > actuator speed hasn't increased due to the physical properties
> of voice coil
> > drive actuators.
> >
> >> Hell for the price of a single 250gb SSD drive,
> >> you can RAID 10 TEN 7200 RPM 500GB SATAs.
> >
> > I think your pricing ratio is a bit off but we'll go with it. You'd
> > get 50,000
> > 4KB random IOPS from the SSD and only 750 IOPS from the RAID 10. The
> > SSD could
> > handle 67 times as many emails per second for 10 times the cost. Not
> > a bad trade.
> >
> >> So while, yes, my 10 drive SATA RAID 10 ONLY performs 166MB/sec with a
> >> 'simplistic' dd test, In reality I just don't think Joe User is going to
> >> notice the difference between that and the superior performance of a
> >> single SSD drive when he POPs his 10 3k emails.
> >
> > But Joe User _will_ notice a difference if this server with the RAID 10
> > mentioned above is supporting 5000 concurrent users, not just
> Joe. Responses
> > will lag. With the SSD you can support 10000 concurrent users
> (assuming the
> > rest of the hardware is up to that task and you have enough RAM) and
> > responses
> > for all of them will be nearly instantaneous. This is the difference
> > SSD makes,
> > and why it's worth the cost in many situations. However, doing so
> > will require
> > an email retention policy that doesn't allow unlimited
> > storage--unless you can
> > afford than much SSD capacity.
> >
> > You can get 240,000 4k random IOPS and 1.9TB of capacity from two of
> > these in a
> > software RAID0 for $6,400 USD:
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227665
> >
> > That's enough transactional IOPS throughput to support well over 50,000
> > concurrent IMAP users, probably far more. Of course this would
> > require a server
> > likely on the order of at least a single socket G34 AMD 12 core
> Magny Cours
> > system w/2GHz cores, 128GB of RAM, and two free PCIe X4/X8 slots
> for the SSD
> > cards, based on a board such as this SuperMicro:
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182240
> > (Actually this is the perfect board for running two of these
> > RevoDrive X2 cards)
I use pricewatch - so, yes, we may be talking refurb drives, but this is
not an issue when you're saving enough money to just buy a few more of
items you're already buying.
Also, if your filesystem is using 4k clusters, aren't you only using 1
random IOPS for a 4k email? It just sounds to me like if you plan
'smarter', anyone can avoid the excessive costs of SSD and get 'end user
similar' performance with commodity hardware.
Rick
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