[Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!
Tamsy
dovecot-list at mohtex.net
Fri May 18 07:35:11 EEST 2012
Linda Walsh wrote the following on 18.05.2012 10:32:
> Jeff Kletsky wrote:
>> Even with "good intent" the message in question is clearly in
>> violation of CAN-SPAM and Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Sec. 17529, of which
>> the sender was informed of when my server was accessed.
> ---
> And you have proof of this? That they received notice? I assume
> you have
> their signature? Computers talking in the night doesn't count as
> 'proof'.
>
>
>> It was very clearly an "electronic mail message the primary purpose
>> of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial
>> product or service."
> ===
> Really? Dovecot is a commercial venture? I thought it was free
> software.
> Someone, with the personal permission of the list owner was allowed to
> mention that they would be willing to offer support for this
> product? Are you pissed because they didn't offer it for free? This
> is a list about dovecot -- no where does it say it will be private nor
> that the email addresses on this list are protected from spam.
> Dovecot isn't a private company.
> It doesn't matter if it was good or bad intent. You being on this
> list
> of your own free will establishes a relationship of the sort that, if
> pre-existing, permits commercial offers. If you don't want that ever
> again, otherwise by remaining on the list, you give some permission
> for occasional
> messages that might be construed to offering services for money, that are
> approved by the list owner.
>
> If it exceeds anyone's tolerance, including mine, I would believe
> any of us would have the same right to leave. I don't think the list
> owner would want to abuse his position and cause wholesale
> departures. OTOH, I don't think this
> rises anywhere near to the level of even the most minor offense.
>
> Personally, I found this discussion *about* the issue to have
> generated more traffic than all the spam I've gotten from this list in
> the past 6 months.
>
> So -- guess what? I don't care.
>
> You might want to reconsider your demands on the list owner who has
> put together some fine quality software for your use -- for free.
> Otherwise, you risk really looking like a completely self-centered
> pompous ass.
> And note, this is based on current traffic levels from this list of
> such email (which are way exceeded by the people talking about it --
> so it's completely irrational to argue about it occurring or not when
> the people complaining about it have generated over 10 times as much
> traffic in a few days. As for the spam
> levels from here.. My spam filters regularly take out about 30 spam
> messages/day
> (based on the 1200+ messages in the past 40 days in my spam folder).
> Like 1
> email from a list I subscribe to is gonna likely even be noticed by
> me?? Unlikely.
>
> (normally a lurker, but someone who can't tolerate intolerance! ;-)
> )...
>
>
>
Well said Linda!
All that noise because of one mail offering some paid support is so
unnecessary!
The Delete-Button is just one click away and in case something like this
happens too often what for do we have this wonderful Sieve to this great
Dovecot-software? ;-)
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