is a self signed certificate always invalid the first time?

[Ruben Safir]

On 08/10/2017 04:41 PM, Frank-Ulrich Sommer wrote:
> add security exceptions this rings all alarm bells. 

no, but software vendors will have you believe that.  Sorry, I don't
leave my house keys with strangers


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