Ms Exchange vs dovecot

[Christian Kivalo]

On May 9, 2020 1:21:09 PM GMT+02:00, Marc Roos <M.Roos at f1-outsourcing.eu> wrote:
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>I was wondering about the sieve rules, because I thought they were 
>executed during mail delivery in the lmtp process. You can also 'guess'
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>this a bit from syntax of the rules or the single file they are stored 
>in. Thus if you 'drag' messages between folders, they are not executed.
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There is IMAP sieve that can execute a sieve script after an IMAP event.
See https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Plugins/IMAPSieve
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>Off topic:
>I know Exchange is a different solution. What I think is stupid, is
>that 
>they store mail in a database still. Making it difficult to scale. (I 
>wonder if they have such solution in their cloud) Better would be per 
>user of course. I also do not like that they try and push users to
>their 
>cloud with all this 365 advertising in the on premises solution. Sooner
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>or later on premises will be gone.
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>Public folder is not removed, they were thinking of it, and community 
>complained (afaik), so they kept it, still there in 2019. (although 
>changed)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: MIhai Badici [mailto:mihai at badici.ro] 
>Sent: 09 May 2020 12:32
>To: dovecot at dovecot.org
>Subject: Re: Ms Exchange vs dovecot
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>First of all, Exchange is a complete solution. Dovecot is a imap/pop3 
>server ( a good one, sure... )
>
>So replacing exchange means to find an integrated solution.
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>about the questions: public folder was removed in exchange. IMHO they 
>made the right choice :)
>
>There is a different thing, need different tools and different client 
>app. You can create shared mailboxes ( i think it's a little demand for
>
>that, but yes)
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>Sieve rules should work ( never tried actually)
>
>I can see a need for an integration with folders only when you work
>with 
>webmail (like roundcube) . In this  scenario ( a liitle bit like gmail)
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>is good to see the folders and attach them ( or save)
>
>I use the kolab plugins for roundcube and there is a sort of
>integration 
>between the chwala ( files plugin) and any webdav capable file server (
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>I use owncloud/nextcloud). So you can share files, edit etc using 
>owncloud but also attach them and save them from webmail. You can find
>a 
>lot of plugins in owncloud to deal with files, even editing with 
>onlyoffice . IMHO, that's the way, there is no need to create a client 
>app to deal with all; maybe other people will not agree but...
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>On 5/9/20 1:07 PM, Marc Roos wrote:
>>   
>> My, my, did not expect this discussion. It is our own fault we are 
>> stuck with google and microsoft monopolies. If small companies would 
>> combine effort (resources and cash) and would not reinvent/create the
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>> wheel constantly on our own little islands, we would have much better
>
>> products. So respect for the dovecot team.
>>
>> The reason I am asking is that, the public folder solution is not as 
>> it was in 2000. Exchange 2016+ do not support CDO etc. Nobody 
>> transitioned between the two?
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>>   1. public folder can be implemented with a public mailbox?
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>>   2. authorize users via groups access to mailboxes/folders of the 
>> public folder/mailbox. I think I saw ACL's with dovecot, does this 
>> compare to 'folder permissions'
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>>   3. is it possible with sieve to apply a rule on any mailbox/folder?
>> Thus if I 'drag' a message to a folder, the sieve rule is activated?
>>
>>

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Christian Kivalo