Hi folks.
Here's our situation: Migrating from UW-IMAP. Have lots (as in, tens of thousands) of clients set up using '~/mail' as the IMAP root, and using subscriptions.
Dovecot mail_location is using '~' for mbox storage. We've disabled full filesystem access in Dovecot in order to use ACLs for shared folders. Hence we have a hidden namespace for backwards compatibility with those clients using '~/mail' (dovecot -n output is at the end of this message so you can see exact settings). Here's the problem. If the client is not taking advantage of this hidden namespace--say it's configured to use plain old 'mail' as the root directory--LSUB and SUBSCRIBE work as I'd expect. Subscribing to a folder called 'foo' puts this in the user's subscriptions file:
mail/foo
And this (from Thunderbird's log) is the LSUB exchange:
48203776[ed8ebe0]: 2e03600:server.umn.edu:A:SendData: 6 lsub "" "mail/*" 48203776[ed8ebe0]: ReadNextLine [stream=ed8ef88 nb=26 needmore=0] 48203776[ed8ebe0]: 2e03600:serverl.umn.edu:A:CreateNewLineFromSocket: * LSUB () "/" "mail/foo" 48203776[ed8ebe0]: ReadNextLine [stream=ed8ef88 nb=38 needmore=0] (trimmed...) 48203776[ed8ebe0]: 2e03600:bhayden.email.umn.edu:A:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 6 OK Lsub completed.
All is well. However, when the client is configured with '~/mail' as the root and hence triggers the hidden namespace for such, SUBSCRIBE only writes a path relative to that namespace prefix. So as opposed the 'mail/foo' in the first example, we get:
foo
written to the subs folder.
This leads to three problems:
- Folders subscribed to when using this namespace will either disappear or break in a client using a different IMAP root setting that actually refers to the same place. For example, if this user moves to a client (such as both of the webmail offerings on campus) that use 'mail/' as the prefix, these folders will not be visible.
This is a fairly sizeable population of our users, whom we aren't necessarily in the position to say "too bad" to. :)
- Users moved over from UW-IMAP, who were using '~/mail' for the IMAP root, have a subscriptions file full of:
~/mail/bar
Dovecot, with the same client configuration (since it's expecting a bare folder name to which it will prepend the namespace prefix), interprets this as so:
49036288[fa7e740]: 2eabc00:server.umn.edu:A:CreateNewLineFromSocket: * LSUB () "/" "~/mail/~/mail/foobar"
Leading to having the folder displayed in the client's list, but giving an error on SELECT. Now, this one we could theoretically "solve" by scrubbing the prefixes out of subs files as we convert; however, that leaves us with #1 above, where the bare folder name in the subs file depends on (to the average user) an obscure client config setting, which in practice in a large heterogeneous environment is unreliable.
- Users who have been using an IMAP root of 'mail' in some client and subscribed to folders, who then use a client with the root set to '~/mail' see what appears to be "duplicates" of the same folder at the top level and then within a bogus 'mail/' subdirectory. They (quite reasonably, from their perspective), delete one of these, only to find they've deleted the only copy of said folder. Not good.
Also, users can't solve some of these problems by unsubbing and re-subbing on their own, as trying to unsubscribe from a folder that doesn't exist (such as ~/mail/~/mail/foobar in the example above) fails.
So, I'm wondering if there's any way to address this. I looked through the list archives and code pretty thoroughly. Only thing I noticed was a CVS log mentioning a "subscriptions=yes" setting for namespaces, which sounded like it might address this problem. However, putting that setting into dovecot.conf causes it to fail to start with a "Unrecognized config option" error, and using an imap_executable wrapper that sets the env variable as specified in the code (NAMESPACE_<number>_SUBSCRIPTIONS) sets it, as I can see from the dovecot log output:
Namespace: type=private, prefix=~/mail/, sep=/, inbox=no, hidden=yes, subscriptions=yes
But doesn't seem to have any effect. These two things combined lead me to believe this option was deprecated at some point?
Any thoughts or suggestions? While we're moving away from UW for a reason ;), it does seem to handle this one thing more coherently as it recognizes, for example, that if the server equivalent of mail_location's storage is '~', then subscription file entries: '~/mail/foo' and 'mail/foo' are the same thing, while 'foo' is '~/foo'--regardless of client settings or namespaces. Whereas in the same situation Dovecot handles a client IMAP root of '~/mail' vs 'mail' differently, even though they are in fact the same thing.
This is also internally inconsistent, because (as noted above) when a namespace is not in effect Dovecot SUBSCRIBEs using a path relative to the mail_location storage--including the client's IMAP root portion of the path--whereas when a namespace is in effect it SUBSCRIBEs with only the bare mailbox name without the current client's IMAP root to give it context and meaning. Wouldn't it seem better to have these be consistent in this respect?
We need to figure this out somehow before going any further with our migration. We'll modify the source if necessary, but are hoping for a solution that doesn't require maintaining local mods to the source code unless we absolutely have to. :) And this seems like a basic enough issue that it'd be good to handle it in the real codebase. Thanks for any help or insight,
-Brian Hayden Internet Services University of Minnesota
dovecot -n output: (The shell script mail_executable doesn't come into play here--it sets some namespace settings only for special shared accounts using Maildir, and doesn't touch anything for the normal mbox accounts discussed above.)
# /etc/opt/dovecot/dovecot.conf syslog_facility: local6 protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s ssl_cert_file: /etc/opt/openssl/certs/dovecot.pem ssl_key_file: /etc/opt/openssl/private/dovecot.pem shutdown_clients: no login_dir: /var/opt/dovecot/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login max_mail_processes: 8192 first_valid_uid: 99 mail_location: mbox:~:INBOX=/var/mail/%u:INDEX=/var/mail/.dovecot-index/%1u/%u/ mail_debug: yes mail_executable(default): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/mail_path.sh mail_executable(imap): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/mail_path.sh mail_executable(pop3): /opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugins(default): zlib mail_plugins(imap): zlib mail_plugins(pop3): mail_plugin_dir(default): /opt/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /opt/dovecot/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /opt/dovecot/lib/dovecot/pop3 imap_client_workarounds(default): delay-newmail outlook-idle tb-extra-mailbox-sep imap_client_workarounds(imap): delay-newmail outlook-idle tb-extra-mailbox-sep imap_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-idle pop3_uidl_format(default): pop3_uidl_format(imap): pop3_uidl_format(pop3): %08Xu%08Xv namespace: type: private separator: / inbox: yes namespace: type: private separator: / prefix: ~/mail/ location: mbox:%h/mail/:INDEX=/var/mail/.dovecot-index/%1u/%u/ hidden: yes namespace: type: private separator: / prefix: ~%u/mail/ location: mbox:~%u/mail/:INDEX=/var/mail/.dovecot-index/%1u/%u/ hidden: yes namespace: type: private separator: / prefix: Shared/ location: maildir:~/Maildir/Shared:INDEX=/var/mail/.dovecot-index/%1u/u/shared auth default: username_format: %Lu passdb: driver: pam args: session=yes * userdb: driver: passwd plugin: acl: vfile: