Am 02.07.2012 19:10, schrieb Wojciech Puchar:
Equivalents of all these can be presented the other way around against badly configured free software solutions.
Fortunately not microsoft sets open standard and have to conform to them or there will be microsoft only mail. And more fortunately not these admins.
OK response from exchange server getting properly my e-mail is enough proof that email was delivered to it. No attempts (including tcpdump trace) of sending e-mail from exchange serverr to me is too a proof of email not being delivered by it.
Yet fortunately it is really easy to fight it - EXPLAIN people.
Most people just don't know what they are doing wrong and not willingly want to make things more complicated. Simply explaining them is from my experience enough in 99% of cases. YES really it works but most people here never tried it!
As for latter - maybe it is possible to make exchange actually work, but statistics shows that it is not possible, or incredibly hard or people that are exchange administrators have no knowledge.
For any of my clients asking if exchange or outlook would be good solution i just recommend visiting any company that actually use it and ask average employee (not boss). This always work.
The other false statement is that such solution are designed for large scale businesses. The larger case the less chance it may work at all.
Seems i am the only one here that do not fear the truth. I don't risk being fired :) as i work for those that (most often) already got at least one of that "enterprise" solutions and wanted something that actually work.
And this is what i recommend to all of you.
I recommend ending this topic altogether, as it is not dovecot related at all - unless anyone will find a problem with Dovecot implementation of IMAP that is clearly not confirming to standards, and (possibly) affect microsoft outlook.
Highly unlikely but possible.
Dovecot is high performance IMAP server, but will not fix bad client software.
Hi , as i said million times before dont compare the incomparable
Outlook is the client of Exchange , it can do smtp,imap,pop3 too
its sold as a solution, with os , server, auth system ,client , support people etc
There is no reason for M$ to make Qutlook fit in a perfect imap client cause this would goal in less reason for exchange
Nevertheless if you have good admins and money to buy licences and good support, outlook and exchange are good company solutions for intranet mail and groupware ( like calendering etc )
dont flame by m$ is earning money, help making free solutions to get better specially in groupware functions with cross os clients like thunderbird etc
dovecot is an imap server it has allready nearly all features comparable to the "exchange imap part", like folder acl etc nothing more is the job of dovecot
customers want to do calendering with sharing ,adressbooks with sharings etc all with one client ( for sure mostly they are Outlook junkies ) but this isnt the real problem
The real problem is that there arent full working and comparable groupware funktions in one client yet, also on the server side there arent complete free solutions cal/carddav is on the way, as well as syncml and other stuff so the goal is near to have all stuff needed to get comparable and much better
meanwhile help dovecot users in fix their tec problems not in flame the shouldnt use a client whatever , most of the times this isnt what server admin can press sombody too
Outlook works fine with dovecot if your setup is right dont think thunderbird is a bugless imap client
At the end know your enemy, dont talk about outlook if you never worked around it, dont expect things from stuff which it was never made for solve
Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer