Hi /dev/rob0,
On 27 Oct 2005 at 10:22, /dev/rob0 rob0@gmx.co.uk spoke, thus:
On Thursday 2005-October-27 10:05, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
among other, lesser lists. SpamCop listings of listhosts are usually caused by silly users who were not doing their homework properly and used the reporting interface to do the wrong thing. EuroCAUCE was even listed once! Your resolutions are to either wait for SpamCop to give up on the host, to hope that the user repents and undoes the damage by request, that someone appeals on your behalf, or to look up the IPs at SpamCop, review the tatters of the message you are allowed to look at, and to try to find the subscriber who did this with
Again IMO the better solution is to go back to using the relay which is under his control. I don't disagree with you for the most part, but I do think he'll fare better without using the song.fi relays.
I just checked out the reporting history, and I think you're right - there's some genuine spam coming from the host. If it's a shared host then of course any non-shared under-control individual host is preferable (since there's a smaller chance of reporters accusing it), though I still worry that SORBS has a poor record of being nice (and a good record of being "Impassively righteous"). I'm thinking of my days back on cable with a dynamic address ... but as you've said there's a better case for having the relay host unlisted because it's well-configured.
As for me, I'm pleased not to be using either BL - I use the delayed greeting trick to do what most modern BLs can't - block most zombie traffic.
Cheers, Sabahattin
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