Thanks for the reply. When you say it [NTLM] "should" work, I understand you to be implying you've not actually tried NTLM yourself, right? I've never gotten a response from someone saying they have or are actually using it. Your subsequent messages about NTLM v[1|2] may be the problem, but email clients I've tried (Outlook, Thunderbird) don't really give a choice.
That's OK, I'd be glad to try something different that would work!!! I am trying your advice for gssapi. I've followed the instructions at http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Kerberos. In my 10-auth.conf I changed the auth_mechanism line to:
auth_mechanisms = plain login gssapi
Which is only different from before with the addition of "gssapi". That's all I've done. I'm using the same userdb as before which is /etc/passwd. My doveconf -n is:
doveconf -n # 2.2.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.10.17 x86_64 Slackware 14.1 auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = plain login gssapi auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain disable_plaintext_auth = no info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir
----------SNIP------------ passdb { driver = shadow } protocols = imap ssl_cert =
I attempted to connect from Thunderbird on Ubuntu 15.10 to Dovecot on a Slackware 14.1 AD/DC. I selected "Kerberos/GSSAPI" as the authentication method on Tbird. When trying the connection I got the following in my Dovecot log:
Jun 27 00:04:54 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Jun 27 00:04:54 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Jun 27 00:04:54 auth: Debug: Loading modules from directory: /usr/local/lib/dovecot/auth Jun 27 00:04:54 auth: Debug: Loading modules from directory: /usr/local/lib/dovecot/auth Jun 27 00:04:54 imap-login: Info: Disconnected: Auth process broken (disconnected before auth was ready, waited 0 secs): user=<>, rip=192.168.0.99, lip=98.102.63.107, session=<Zk1rnzo2IADAqABj>
So, any idea why this is not working? I'll say up-front that I do not have the auth_krb5_keytab configured in 10-auth.conf. I could find no such file on the host running Dovecot. Is that file needed? If so, I've got a message in to the Samba4 folks asking where it is located.
I'm also using Dovecot 2.2.15. Too old?
Do you think auth_krb5_keytab is my problem or something deeper?
THX --Mark
-----Original Message-----
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:00:49 +0300 (EEST) From: aki.tuomi@dovecot.fi To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: Looking for NTLM config example
It should work. Although if you are using linux server you might want to use gssapi instead.
On June 25, 2016 at 7:43 PM Mark Foley mfoley@ohprs.org wrote:
I've asked this several times over the past year with essentially zero responses. I'll keep it simple:
Does NTLM authentication work in Dovecot?
I'll post this one last time. If I still have no responses I'll have to conclude that no one has actually tried this authentication method and it therefore does not work.
Thanks, --Mark
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Foley mfoley@ohprs.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:07:24 -0400 Organization: Ohio Highway Patrol Retirement System To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Looking for NTLM config example
Now that I am running Thunderbird on Linux and away from Windows/Outlook, I'd like to take another run at setting up NTLM authentication from Thunderbird to my Samba4 AC/DC.
With the help of the samba maillist folks I was able to set up NTLM authentication for domain user login. I should be able to do the same for email!
But, I need help. I went to http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Mechanisms/NTLM and got lost immediately. Are "authenticaion submethods" synonymous with "password schemes"? The 7th line down says, "NTLM password scheme is required for NTLM, NTLM2 and NTLMv2.", but in the referenced link I found no reference to "NTLM password scheme".
The links http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Mechanisms/NTLM and http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/PasswordSchemes, tell you what the 4 NTLM authentication submethods are, tells you what password schemes are, tells you what the NTLM client/server handshake is, but doesn't actually tell you how to configure dovecot config files. I'm much more interested in the "how to" than in: "NTLMv2: server and client nonce, MITM can't force downgrade" ... whatever that means.
Anyway, probably it's my lack of understanding terminology. I don't even know what a "nonce" is. But, I learn well from examples! Can somone please give me a sample 10-auth.conf for NTML and any other supporting settings or configs I need?
My current/working dovecot settings, which have been running perfectly for well over a year now, are:
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.10.17 x86_64 Slackware 14.1 auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = plain login auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain disable_plaintext_auth = no info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir passdb { driver = shadow } protocols = imap ssl_cert =
Here's what I've tried so far as 10-auth.conf:
disable_plaintext_auth = no auth_use_winbind = yes info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info auth_verbose = yes auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_verbose_passwords= plain auth_winbind_helper_path = /usr/bin/ntlm_auth
auth_mechanisms = ntlm plain login
userdb { driver = passwd args = username_format=%n allow_all_users=yes
}
Which gives me a dovecot -n of:
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.10.17 x86_64 Slackware 14.1 auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = ntlm plain login auth_use_winbind = yes auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain disable_plaintext_auth = no info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir protocols = imap ssl_cert =
I configured Thunderbird for NTLM authentication, then tried sending a message, I got the following in /var/log/dovecot_info:
Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Apr 22 01:37:57 auth: Debug: Loading modules from directory: /usr/local/lib/dovecot/auth Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Info: Disconnected: Auth process broken (disconnected before auth was ready, waited 0 secs): user=<>, rip=192.168.0.58, lip=98.102.63.107, session=<xFuyOgwx9wDAqAA6>
On Thunderbird I got the error, "Sending of the message failed. The Outlgoing server (SMTP) my.server.name does not support the selected authentication method. Please change the 'Autnentication method' in 'Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP)'."
Clearly, something is configured wrong, but I've no clue what.
Can I get some advice?
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Now that I am running Thunderbird on Linux and away from Windows/Outlook, I'd like to take another run at setting up NTLM authentication from Thunderbird to my Samba4 AC/DC.
With the help of the samba maillist folks I was able to set up NTLM authentication for domain user login. I should be able to do the same for email!
But, I need help. I went to http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Mechanisms/NTLM and got lost immediately. Are "authenticaion submethods" synonymous with "password schemes"? The 7th line down says, "NTLM password scheme is required for NTLM, NTLM2 and NTLMv2.", but in the referenced link I found no reference to "NTLM password scheme".
The links http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Mechanisms/NTLM and http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/PasswordSchemes, tell you what the 4 NTLM authentication submethods are, tells you what password schemes are, tells you what the NTLM client/server handshake is, but doesn't actually tell you how to configure dovecot config files. I'm much more interested in the "how to" than in: "NTLMv2: server and client nonce, MITM can't force downgrade" ... whatever that means.
Anyway, probably it's my lack of understanding terminology. I don't even know what a "nonce" is. But, I learn well from examples! Can somone please give me a sample 10-auth.conf for NTML and any other supporting settings or configs I need?
My current/working dovecot settings, which have been running perfectly for well over a year now, are:
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.10.17 x86_64 Slackware 14.1 auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = plain login auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain disable_plaintext_auth = no info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir passdb { driver = shadow } protocols = imap ssl_cert =
Here's what I've tried so far as 10-auth.conf:
disable_plaintext_auth = no auth_use_winbind = yes info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info auth_verbose = yes auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_verbose_passwords= plain auth_winbind_helper_path = /usr/bin/ntlm_auth
auth_mechanisms = ntlm plain login
userdb { driver = passwd args = username_format=%n allow_all_users=yes
}
Which gives me a dovecot -n of:
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.10.17 x86_64 Slackware 14.1 auth_debug_passwords = yes auth_mechanisms = ntlm plain login auth_use_winbind = yes auth_verbose = yes auth_verbose_passwords = plain disable_plaintext_auth = no info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot_info mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir protocols = imap ssl_cert =
I configured Thunderbird for NTLM authentication, then tried sending a message, I got the following in /var/log/dovecot_info:
Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Debug: SSL: elliptic curve secp384r1 will be used for ECDH and ECDHE key exchanges Apr 22 01:37:57 auth: Debug: Loading modules from directory: /usr/local/lib/dovecot/auth Apr 22 01:37:57 imap-login: Info: Disconnected: Auth process broken (disconnected before auth was ready, waited 0 secs): user=<>, rip=192.168.0.58, lip=98.102.63.107, session=<xFuyOgwx9wDAqAA6>
On Thunderbird I got the error, "Sending of the message failed. The Outlgoing server (SMTP) my.server.name does not support the selected authentication method. Please change the 'Autnentication method' in 'Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP)'."
Clearly, something is configured wrong, but I've no clue what.
Can I get some advice?
THX --Mark
Aki Tuomi