It's getting to be a very big problem with open source software.&nbsp; Andrew Morton who's the lead maintainer of the Linux production kernel has come out claiming that the kernel is getting too buggy.&nbsp; You may not call changing the name of a dependency a bug, but it certainly manifests itself as one.<br><br>MS desktop clients update themselves pretty seemlessly.&nbsp; Servers are getting to that level pretty quickly as well.&nbsp; I'm fighting an uphill battle trying convince my clients and peers to adopt open source software and they ask me why?&nbsp; Software that updates itself verses surely Linux hacks who put people down because they don't want to follow a complex 20 step process that's documented in 15 different places.&nbsp; <br><br>There's only a limited amount of space for various open source applications.&nbsp; They're pretty much commercial ventures now.&nbsp;&nbsp; There's a big push among packages like Fedora and Debian to virtualize installations with
 seemless state archival, recovery, and transitions.&nbsp; I suppose that may be more of an issue for the packager than the software developer.&nbsp; I predict that the packages that seemlessly update state across versions will be the only ones that exist in the future.&nbsp; <br><br>I guess administrators can make themselves feel important and smart by spending days messing with an update that should really only take a couple of hours, or maybe not even that long.&nbsp; <br><br><br><b><i>Joshua Goodall &lt;joshua@roughtrade.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:04:15PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote:<br>&gt; On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 17:41 -0700, Fred Harris wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; It's much cheaper just to pay a company like MS who take upgrade<br>&gt; &gt; transitions seriously.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Right, because I know I always deploy a new MAJOR VERSION of
 software<br>&gt; without testing it. <br><br>Please do not feed the trolls. They're quite capable of hanging themselves.<br><br>/k<br><br>-- <br>Josh "Koshua" Goodall                      "as modern as tomorrow afternoon"<br>joshua@roughtrade.net                                       - FW109<br></blockquote><br><p>
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