Hi John,
the ham script runs only if the target folder is the inbox. So, if a user moves an email from spam to any other folder, it will not be marked as ham. Meanwhile, I have spent so much time on this to know that it makes no sense to investigate further. I found a few websites describing the same issue with Outlook 2013 - 2016 (and even 2019), so I am stopping the work here to save my time. Regardless of the IMAP scripts, I will write a shell script that goes through all spam and ham folders once a night and sets the markings correctly.
Thank you again for your extraordinary support!
Jens
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Fawcett via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2024 22:25 An: dovecot@dovecot.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: IMAPSieve plugin will not run rspamd script
On 03/07/2024 20:53, postfix_dovecot--- via dovecot wrote:
Hi John,
again you're hitting the point!
I put a "report-spam.sieve fired!" and "report-ham.sieve fired!" debug message in the scripts and monitored with "journalctl -u dovecot -f | grep fired". The APPEND event (move to junk) triggers BOTH scripts while the APPEND (move from junk to elsewhere) do nothing.
With your second listing it runs as expected. Now I will crawling some RFCs about the commands and a possible solution.
But I wonder am I the only one with this problem? I expected Outlook, even the older 2016, to be very popular?!
Jens
Hi Jens
after posting I was thinking over the rule for APPENDing to Inbox and I did have my doubts on that. I think it will fire even if people move email from some other folder to Inbox or even potentially on receiving new email, so probably not an ideal solution. I think the only real solution is to have negative matching rules (which at the moment there isn't)
I don't have access to Outlook 2016. I have tried it with Outlook 1.2024.701.200 (which seems a very strange version number, but that's what it says) and I got a MOVE event just like Thunderbird. I think that a mail client should generate a MOVE event when moving a message between folders that are on the same server. I would only expect APPEND events if the move was happening for example between two different servers or between server and local folders. If you want to investigate further maybe the rawlog_dir feature would help to capture more info.
best of luck!
John
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