Re: Subject tag [Dovecot] is gone

Am 10.06.2014 16:51, schrieb Koenraad Lelong:

op 09-06-14 22:27, Timo Sirainen schreef:

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I've actually been thinking about it almost since the beginning. It's just been annoying waste of space on my screen. And more importantly nowadays it's also breaking DKIM/DMARC signatures. So if somebody still uses Subject-based filtering it's about time to switch to List-ID header based filtering now.

Another thing I'm wondering about is if I should allow text/html parts, because removing them will also break the DKIM signatures. Or mainly I'd like to allow only multipart/alternative with text/plain + text/html, but I don't think I can configure Mailman to support that.

besides that the envelope sender is "dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org" and To/Cc always "dovecot@dovecot.org" it's easy to filter that with Sieve, subject based filters are broken anyways

Just wanted to ask what happened to "[Dovecot]" when I saw this mail. Could you tell me how to find the List_ID ? I looked at the raw mail, but I didn't find it:

than you have crap software somewhere on your side

• fix that
• it breaks also reply-to-list function
• it breaks threading
• it breaks mailing lists
• it must not happen at all

removing the list headers, look at the same i received and the message id which is the same

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I've actually been thinking about it almost since the beginning. It's = just been annoying waste of space on my screen. And more importantly = nowadays it's also breaking DKIM/DMARC signatures. So if somebody still = uses Subject-based filtering it's about time to switch to List-ID header = based filtering now.

Another thing I'm wondering about is if I should allow text/html parts, = because removing them will also break the DKIM signatures. Or mainly I'd = like to allow only multipart/alternative with text/plain + text/html, = but I don't think I can configure Mailman to support that