Quoting Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>:
On Jun 13, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Chris H. wrote:
Wow. We never should have switched from UW-IMAP to Dovecot. Having a 750,000 user base. We made the switch to Dovecot in an effort to trim a little overhead on our systems. But our OS (FreeBSD 5.4 - UFS) version is rapidly reaching EOL. All future versions will default to UFS2. Dovecot seems to handle UFS correctly. But if we had known that we were required to write our own code to stay onboard with Dovecot, we would have *never* made the switch. It appears that Dovecot is not an appropriate choice for Production systems. But rather; better suited for hobbyists. I sure wish we had known this from the start.
Well, I'm sorry that you feel that way, but before switching I would
have supposed that you had checked that Dovecot does everything you
need it to do. Especially because UW-IMAP doesn't even *try* to
support the QUOTA extension that you obviously need so much, and that Dovecot at least even tries to support it even if not in every single operating system (or file system). Couldn't agree more. I chose to switch to Dovecot *because* it is *so* much more advanced. Make no mistake; I believe Dovecot is *superiour* to UW-IMAP.Doveocot isn't owned by any single company. I don't think the web
page even tries to claim anything like it anywhere. Are you saying
that I should devote my entire life to the one thing that *you*
yourself consider important to Dovecot? Even though most other people don't really care about it? Not at all. I couldn't be more grateful for the time you've spent and the benifit that I (and others) enjoy because of it. It never occured to me to be ungrateful. I never indicated I wasn't grateful for the work you've already done. I was meerly expressing concern that I would be required to perform maintenance that is beyond my time constraints to manage, in order to continue to use (and enjoy) all Dovecot has to offer -- Please see dissappointed.I think I do pretty well at balancing what other people want for
Dovecot, what people (companies) pay for me to develop Dovecot to do
and what I myself want Dovecot to become. I guess in recent months
I've become worse at this since I've needed more time for school, but in general I don't think I've done too badly. I never felt (or expressed) otherwise.Now, from you I've seen 3 mails within the whole Doveocot's life
time. If you had actually EVER contributed to Dovecot in any way in
its entire life time I might have replied differently. If you in no
way contribute to an open source project, you can't expect commercial support out of it without paying for it for someone. And there are
most likely a lot of companies that would accept your money if you
wanted it (including the one I work for). Well, it might be of interest to you to know that I am on several development teams and as such am responsible for several mailing lists. On all of which I *frequntly* recommend switching to Dovecot as a solution for troubles that administrators encounter with other mail servers. As a matter of fact, I recently joined a team of developers that will be producing an all-inclusive CMS. That will provide far and beyond what any other CMS can offer to date. I insisted that it track Dovecot closely, as email service will be a part of it's offerings.I'm happy to fix this problem for you, the standard company fee being 120 EUR/hour. Possibly even less if you can convince my supervisors
to accept it. Estimate for fixing it is about 6 hours (since I have
to install a system where I have quota). I don't think you can get
much better support than this elsewhere.Just don't misunderstand this as me not doing anything unless someone pays for it. For most of the last 4 years I've written Dovecot for
free without getting a single cent for it. I still do, but only as
long as I consider the changes to be important. If you have a
different opinion on the imporance, see the paragraph above.
Let me summarize here by letting you know that it should have been obvious that I was experssing my disappointmnet. As I have grown *very* pleased with Dovecot and all it has to offer. I *never* expressed otherwise. Because of this, it should have been clear that that I couldn't have been more greatful for the work (and quality) you have provided thus far with Dovecot. I _never_ felt _you_ were responsible for my every whim. I was only concerned that given the comments you made to another poster on this list. That I would ultimately be forced to drop Dovecot as my (our) chosen mail server.
Best wishes.
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