Hi Sascha,
Sascha Wilde schrieb:
Robert Schetterer <robert@schetterer.org> writes:
Bernhard Herzog schrieb:
On 15.01.2009, Sascha Wilde wrote:
But should it just internally convert "owner" to "username" when replying? From our experience this would be a very good idea. Many clients recognize the username and handle those ACLs differently in there UI (for example they don't offer them for editing). But they don't understand "owner". To work around this, we created a patch that tries to avoid the owner ACL entries. [...] i dont think you should mess around what clients think where should this end , the technical right and most clear description is owner, username can be very wide interpreted and may lead to technical problems in reading imap-acl i.e from horde imp or other mail clients later, as far i remember owner is use i.e in exchange too
Hi Robert,
I'm not quite sure if we are talking about the same thing. This is about the reply to the getacl command in the imap protocol (in opposite to the output in the clients UI).
i was talking about imap getacl, which answers owner but youre right maybe we missunderstood
I don't know about exchange, but most clients don't know about dovecots special meaning of "owner" but simply consider it an ordinary user name.
do you mean clients as humans or mail clients? there are less mail clients which understand imap acl at all the only only i know which works right fully in the that way is mulberry and horde imp, thunderbird can read acls but nor set ( shame on tb hackers ) and it reports simply owner etc ( but i should try the english version ....)
On the other hand I know horde imp (the Kolab Webclient is horde based) and I can assure you that it gets confused by dovecots current behavior: it does not recognize "owner" as "the actual owner of that mailbox" and does not handle the ACL in any special way while it _does_ recognize when the returned username is matching the current user and for instance horde prevents the user from changing his own right.
on my latests test with horde imp latest i cant find any problems with imap acl and owner, there where a few updates with acl lately and i had to mess around with the config but made it work, but for sure i couldnt test all features for now very deep, cause i still have bugs with other dovecot new features like virtual plugin
Further more there is no way in the IMAP ACL extension to determine the "owner" of an mailbox I'm aware of, so there would be no way for an client to resolve the "owner" ACL to an actual user, which makes the information rather useless.
i thought so
cheers
whatever what i mean was leave the code to standarts dont try to implement specials for brain bugged humans which might leave to other tec problems later, anyway i am not in the case to forbid something *g i ll trust on you that you know what youre doing at last *ggg
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MfG Robert Schetterer
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