Jason Wohlford schrieb:
On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
Hi Jason, forget about workarounds for outlook express its a broken client for several reasons, just advice not not use it.
Outlook isnt Outlook , div versions with div patchlevel working in different ways and have different ways ( or no ways ) to solve your Problem here ist good advice for imap purge http://www.landaenterprises.com/support/email_imap_delete.asp note purge in this case ist a function of the client which the user may handle as he likes
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to work around.
if you want outlook move sent mails to a imap sent folder use a filter rule
look here for advice http://kb.nitix.com/1630
I thought those were already being handled correctly. Looks like I've got to look into that too.
at last tell your users that outlook isnt a universal mail client specially with imap and smtp
I know that. You know that, but my clients are certainly not going to accept that as an answer. They'll simply go elsewhere.
Outlook is the client of m$ case in first case and fits to exchanges needs, and only with exchange it offers its workgroup funktions which are from interest in companies
m$ has no interest to make it better work with imap cause , they would loose money if the do so, cause as time goes by , specially smaller companies may find no need to buy expensive windows and exchange servers outlook licences anymore
Preaching to the choir.
advice users to use thunderbird/lightning as better choice
I do. I actually push Thunderbird pretty heavily. Maybe too heavily.
Same goes to apple mail which does serveral funny stuff with imap All these products are formed to make money with the special services m$ and apple provides, they arent meant to be highly compatible to wide spreaded imap,smtp opensoftware servers which mostly very clean coded
We'll I'll have to disagree with you there. I find Mail.app to be a great little program. Mac OS X Server uses Cyrus and Postfix. I've even gone command line to fine tune some spam settings. Now, you can certainly dis-Apple for many other things, but Mail.app works to spec.
Cheers, Jason
Hi Jason,
apple mail works good with imap for users which can configure it ( but users mostly arent good by doing so), but it has a long lists of bugs with imap. look at apple lists about apple mail. This maybe fixed now.
My personal disagree is with their standard folders names for send mail etc, i dont like spaces in default names of imap folders and i dont like this apple unneeded extravagances,
i dont see something at an apple server what cant be done in linux without pay, and i simply dont need a gui on my servers
when i last migrated users to apple mail from pop3 to imap all their mail where mixed up magical with apple mail profiles, seems to be semi automatic here ( but after all ,i am no king on apple use, so maybe it was my fault, but their apple admin was more lost then me, that time *g)
Thunderbird is lightyears better, has lot of plugins and is more near to imap standart. ( for sure tb needs more stuff to gets more spreaded to companies, it misses i.e acl imap )
What i like at apple is their calender solution as client and server but for now lightning is stable enough for a company solution, and is cross platform.
But no need to flame, advanced users will be happy with every good imap client, and apple takes the right way, m$ can only loose
-- Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer
Germany/Munich/Bavaria