Jason Wohlford schrieb:
Hi All,
I run a little hosting company. I use Dovecot 1.0.10* with IMAP exclusively. Lots of my customers use Outlook or Outlook Express. This poses a problem. These programs don't and have absolutely no workarounds to move messages to a trash folder when deleted. They only mark the message for deletion. Then, users have to purge the message to actually delete it. Outlook has a way to hide deleted messages and also auto-purge them when moving to a different folder. That just doesn't cut it. (Thanks Microsoft! :-p )
So, I'm thinking Dovecot could pick up where Microsoft left off.
It seems to me there needs to be two things done. First, a system that automatically copy a message marked for deletion from one folder (e.g. INBOX) to a trash folder (e.g. Trash, Deleted Messages, etc.) Dovecot's lazy_expunge might already do this, but I couldn't quite discern it from the wiki docs. Second, a way to only do this when Outlook or Outlook Express is the one who is deleting a message.
Possibility? Comments?
Cheers, Jason
P.S. Thanks for the great software!
*Yes, I know. I need to upgrade to Dovecot 1.0.13.
Hi Jason, forget about workarounds for outlook express its a broken client for several reasons, just advice not not use it.
Outlook isnt Outlook , div versions with div patchlevel working in different ways and have different ways ( or no ways ) to solve your Problem here ist good advice for imap purge http://www.landaenterprises.com/support/email_imap_delete.asp note purge in this case ist a function of the client which the user may handle as he likes
if you want outlook move sent mails to a imap sent folder use a filter rule
look here for advice http://kb.nitix.com/1630
at last tell your users that outlook isnt a universal mail client specially with imap and smtp
Outlook is the client of m$ case in first case and fits to exchanges needs, and only with exchange it offers its workgroup funktions which are from interest in companies
m$ has no interest to make it better work with imap cause , they would loose money if the do so, cause as time goes by , specially smaller companies may find no need to buy expensive windows and exchange servers outlook licences anymore
advice users to use thunderbird/lightning as better choice
after all i dont think dovecot should try to deal with outlook troubles ( which are mutatating from version to version ) , as long as there is other important stuff to do (acl etc),but for sure this not my decision, its mainly the work of microsoft to support user questions about their expensive sold products not yours in my opinion
Same goes to apple mail which does serveral funny stuff with imap All these products are formed to make money with the special services m$ and apple provides, they arent meant to be highly compatible to wide spreaded imap,smtp opensoftware servers which mostly very clean coded
i know telling this truths are badly told to costumers and users in real life , but perhaps you may do the best you can to provide such info
Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer
Germany/Munich/Bavaria