If you use system accounts, the migration is so easy.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
On Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 18:27 John Hill via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
Yes there is a release note, and yes it includes extreme changes.
I have yet to update Debian due to this. I did install in a test site and spent the better part of a day getting it to work, hopefully.
In fairness Dovecot is free. They don't owe me anything. If opensource software is going to treat its users like this. I guess that could generate sales.
I am considering other options, before I upgrade to Debian 13 or maybe something altogether different.
--john
On 1/24/26 9:48 AM, Washington Odhiambo via dovecot wrote:
On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 4:11PM Curtis J Blank via dovecot <[1]dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote: I just did a Tumbleweed upgrade. then I had to fix dovecot. Nowarning
that dovecot was going to break what so ever. Below is all thethings I
had to fix. And then I could not read my email in Thunderbirdbecause
you changed: mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u to mail_driver = mbox mail_path = ~/mail mail_inbox_path = /var/spool/mail/%{user} and the "%u" to "%{user}" was the showstopper. What a crock of BS! I spent 3 hours determining the problem andthen
fixing dovecot because you decided to make major changes for nogood
reason. It worked just fine the way it was. You could haveautomated the
changes by providing a utility that would make the changes thefirst
time it started up after the upgrade. All this ranting while you did not read the release announcement? Oh Lord of Mercy :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' -\_(Tu)_/- :-) [How to ask smart questions: [2]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]References
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If you use system accounts, the migration is so easy.
Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' -\_(Tu)_/- :-) [How to ask smart questions: [1]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] On Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 18:27 John Hill via dovecot <[2]dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
Yes there is a release note, and yes it includes extreme changes.
I have yet to update Debian due to this. I did install in a test site
and spent the better part of a day getting it to work, hopefully.
In fairness Dovecot is free. They don't owe me anything. If opensource
software is going to treat its users like this. I guess that could
generate sales.
I am considering other options, before I upgrade to Debian 13 or maybe
something altogether different.
--john
On 1/24/26 9:48 AM, Washington Odhiambo via dovecot wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 4:11PM Curtis J Blank via dovecot
> <[1][3]dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
>
> I just did a Tumbleweed upgrade. then I had to fix dovecot. No
warning
> that dovecot was going to break what so ever. Below is all the
things I
> had to fix. And then I could not read my email in Thunderbird
because
> you changed:
>
> mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u
> to
> mail_driver = mbox
> mail_path = ~/mail
> mail_inbox_path = /var/spool/mail/%{user}
>
> and the "%u" to "%{user}" was the showstopper.
>
> What a crock of BS! I spent 3 hours determining the problem and
then
> fixing dovecot because you decided to make major changes for no
good
> reason. It worked just fine the way it was. You could have
automated the
> changes by providing a utility that would make the changes the
first
> time it started up after the upgrade.
>
> All this ranting while you did not read the release announcement?
> Oh Lord of Mercy :-)
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
> In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS.
> "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' -\_(Tu)_/- :-)
> [How to ask smart
> questions:
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