This is not a legal forum. My advice is to read the original GDPR law. The UK-GDPR is not GDPR.
The original question was how to delete mails after a specified amount of time. Let us stay on the tecnical side, and leave the legal masturbation to lawyers.
-------- Original Message -------- On Feb 28, 2024, 12:50, Tim Dickson via dovecot wrote:
Agreed, although it doesn't apply to sending emails from non European citizens, only mailboxes containing European citizens' emails. It's only enforceable if the citizenship of the holder of the mailbox is known. However, the assertion that if you are a company you are required to delete old emails automatically according to GDPR is not correct. In the UK which was aligned with the European GDPR there is no such requirement; in fact, for accounting and some legal reasons you are required to keep records for 6-7years, so if those records eg orders, are emails or attachments in emails they should be kept. https://www.ionos.co.uk/startupguide/grow-your-business/retention-periods-fo... (the email retention section) It is probably more an individual company policy using GDPR as an "excuse". That is very commonly used as a reason why a company can or cannot do something, regardless of the actual GDPR law. In this case, probably to keep user's mail boxes down to a sensible size, although based on the above info, they may be breaking other laws by deleting emails. You can look up the actual gdpr requirements if you are interested. the uk version is here https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/data-pro... which show you can keep data as emails as long as you want, providing you have a reason. regards, Tim On 28/02/2024 09:38, Rupert Gallagher via dovecot wrote: >> First, dovecot is a global product, where not every company has to take care > about european nonense laws > > Not true. > > If you are a non-European company with European customers, then you are subject > to GDPR law. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > On Feb 25, 2024, 16:35, Steven Varco wrote: > > > Am 25.02.2024 um 09:38 schrieb Rupert Gallagher via dovecot > dovecot.org>: > > >> Things like this should be done locally on the > Mailclient (MUA), IMHO. > > If you are a company, then you must > delete old e-mails automatically, by GDPR > law. In this case it > comes back to that this is better done by an external script. First, > dovecot is a global product, where not every company has to take care > about european nonense laws. :P Second, I would not want dovecot to > become a „fullsize all in one solution for everything“ (like MS > Exchange). I like the concept of doing one thing only, but doing this > good. Steven > > > -------- Original Message -------- > On Feb 21, > 2024, 23:25, Steven Varco wrote: > >> Am > 21.02.2024 um 21:25 schrieb Peter Reinhold : > > Hi > I have been > > wondering about if Dovecot has a feature that would allow users to > > setup a > rule for a given folder, that mails older than X days > should be > deleted? > Or > is > this something that would need to be > done by an external script? Yes. It > goes beyond of what I expect > from an IMAP server. > I have looked a bit at > autoexpunge, and > while the basic feature looks to be > what I need, it doesn't > seem > to be configurable down to a specific folder on a > single user. > Things > like this should be done locally on the Mailclient (MUA), > IMHO. Steven - > - https://steven.varco.ch/ https://www.tech- > island.com/ > _______________________________________________ dovecot > mailing list - > - dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email > to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > > > _______________________________________________ > dovecot mailing > list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > _______________________________________________ dovecot mailing list > -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot- > leave@dovecot.org > > _______________________________________________ > dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org _______________________________________________ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org
This is not a legal forum. My advice is to read the original GDPR law. The UK- GDPR is not GDPR.
The original question was how to delete mails after a specified amount of time. Let us stay on the tecnical side, and leave the legal masturbation to lawyers.
-------- Original Message -------- On Feb 28, 2024, 12:50, Tim Dickson via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
Agreed, although it doesn't apply to sending emails from non European
citizens, only mailboxes containing European citizens' emails. It's
only enforceable if the citizenship of the holder of the mailbox is
known. However, the assertion that if you are a company you are
required to delete old emails automatically according to GDPR is not
correct. In the UK which was aligned with the European GDPR there is
no such requirement; in fact, for accounting and some legal reasons
you are required to keep records for 6-7years, so if those records eg
orders, are emails or attachments in emails they should be kept.
https://www.ionos.co.uk/startupguide/grow-your-business/retention-
periods-for-business-records/ (the email retention section) It is
probably more an individual company policy using GDPR as an "excuse".
That is very commonly used as a reason why a company can or cannot do
something, regardless of the actual GDPR law. In this case, probably
to keep user's mail boxes down to a sensible size, although based on
the above info, they may be breaking other laws by deleting emails.
You can look up the actual gdpr requirements if you are interested.
the uk version is here https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-
guidance-and-resources/data-protection-principles/a-guide-to-the-
data-protection-principles/the-principles/storage-limitation/ which
show you can keep data as emails as long as you want, providing you
have a reason. regards, Tim On 28/02/2024 09:38, Rupert Gallagher via
dovecot wrote: >> First, dovecot is a global product, where not every
company has to take care > about european nonense laws > > Not true.
> > If you are a non-European company with European customers, then
you are subject > to GDPR law. > > > > -------- Original Message ----
---- > On Feb 25, 2024, 16:35, Steven Varco <
dovecot.org@bbs.varco.ch> wrote: > > > Am 25.02.2024 um 09:38 schrieb
Rupert Gallagher via dovecot > dovecot.org>: > > >> Things like this
should be done locally on the > Mailclient (MUA), IMHO. > > If you
are a company, then you must > delete old e-mails automatically, by
GDPR > law. In this case it > comes back to that this is better done
by an external script. First, > dovecot is a global product, where
not every company has to take care > about european nonense laws. :
P Second, I would not want dovecot to > become a „fullsize all in one
solution for everything“ (like MS > Exchange). I like the concept of
doing one thing only, but doing this > good. Steven > > > -------
- Original Message -------- > On Feb 21, > 2024, 23:25, Steven Varco
< dovecot.org@bbs.varco.ch> wrote: > >> Am > 21.02.2024 um 21:25
schrieb Peter Reinhold : > > Hi > I have been > > wondering about if
Dovecot has a feature that would allow users to > > setup a > rule
for a given folder, that mails older than X days > should be >
deleted? > Or > is > this something that would need to be > done by
an external script? Yes. It > goes beyond of what I expect > from an
IMAP server. > I have looked a bit at > autoexpunge, and > while the
basic feature looks to be > what I need, it doesn't > seem > to be
configurable down to a specific folder on a > single user. > Things >
like this should be done locally on the Mailclient (MUA), > IMHO.
Steven - > - https://steven.varco.ch/ https://www.tech- > island.com/
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