On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:40 -0700, Professa Dementia wrote:
Google has already admitted that they do not delete email, even when
Google does many may many non compliant things.
those emails are deleted from the Trash. Google states that emails may be archived for a minimum of 2 months past when they are deleted - emails, may, however, be saved forever. You do not know. Google has
It's just one of many many reasons why I don't, and wont, ever use privacy invading scum like gmail.
people's personal information. Google is large enough that they are under scrutiny and have to obey EU privacy laws. However, adding this feature to Dovecot could put smaller email operators in violation of those laws. Not deleting emails when the client says to, is effectively
How so, although I can not see anyone I know using such a feature in the hosting/ISP world, I could see it used in corporate sense - in Australia for instance, businesses are required to keep company correspondences (incl email) for at least five years, so if I ever moved to the private sector, I guess my opinion may change and I may enable it.
Should be of no concern to the EU (and I credit the EU when it comes to privacy matters), as it would need to be manually added option by the server admin, ie: not default - your car can go to 200+ K/hr, but you don't get in and floor it every day do you.
Incidentally, the last time I read the pop3 RFC, admittedly some decade or so ago (and yeah it's likely been updated since?) I can not recall there ever being a "MUST" or "SHOULD" when it comes to deleting messages (it might have been deliberately omitted) apart from the server MUST NOT delete messages that are not marked for deletion.
The problem is already solved by the POP client. Most have a setting that allow emails to remain on the server for a period of time. The default is generally 5 days, but can be set to any value desired. Apple Mail, Thunderbird and outlook all have this feature. Most smartphones also have this feature, including the iPhone, Blackberry and Android
unfortunately many users are nowhere near as smart as their smartphones/clients, with BYOD becoming more prevalent (something I for privacy/security reasons do not agree with permitting), those users need set their own equipment up, and may not configure leave on server, etc, violating laws or company policies).
So in conclusion, in my experience, this feature is not one that has been requested, it makes Dovecot more complex and behave in ways not
20 lines of code and manually having to add a single word to pop options is complex? I'm one for KISS, as those networks rarely, if EVER, have problems, since there is nothing to go wrong, but even I have no objections to such an option, despite never intending to use it.
Cheers Noel