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cat /etc/pam.d/dovecot

passdb { driver = pam

args = failure_show_msg=yes

args = max_requests=12

args = %s }

this info belongs into Dovecot's conf files, not into /etc/pam.d.

doh. i misread the wiki page. thanks.

copy or link /etc/pam.d/imap do /etc/pam.d/dovecot

that seems to have helped a lot!

thank you

randy