[Dovecot] Install Configuring and run.
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ? maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
thanks
marko
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:39 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ?
I assume that you have read antispam(7). What other information do you need?
maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
Did you verify that DSPAM works independently, i.e. without dovecot-antispam?
Regards, Thorsten
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:39 +0100, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:39 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ?
I assume that you have read antispam(7).
dovecot-antispam(7) on Gentoo
What other information do you need?
maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
Did you verify that DSPAM works independently, i.e. without dovecot-antispam?
Regards, Thorsten
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:39 +0100, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:39 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ?
I assume that you have read antispam(7).
dovecot-antispam(7) on Gentoo
What other information do you need?
maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
Did you verify that DSPAM works independently, i.e. without dovecot-antispam?
Regards, Thorsten
Hello , yes it "seems" to work. But it tags all mails as "innocent". everyone. even mails that are marked by sapmassassin , dspam marks them as "innocent".
my goal is to work with dspam that it scans incoming mails and that this training via moving mails works. if i understand the dovecot-antispam right, = dspam scans mails on incoming, marks them. then via maildrop i can put them all into folder "SPAM" at example. when dspam tagged a mail as "spam" that is "not" spam., then i can move the mail from the SPAM folder into normal incoming folder. dspam then retrain the mail. also other way. if a mail comes into the normal incoming and is spam, i can then move the mail into SPAM and dspam get retrained.
sorry guys, i am not all a pro, but now, i sit since 7 days on it to get it work., i am very willing get this work.
so any1 can help me maybe to get this working ? i can paste all needed info u need to help me. at moment i stuck. dspam runs and marks mails, but i am sure i did some things wrong.
totally wrackey marko from hamburg :-)
thx
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:39 +0100, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:39 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ?
I assume that you have read antispam(7).
dovecot-antispam(7) on Gentoo
What other information do you need?
maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
Did you verify that DSPAM works independently, i.e. without dovecot-antispam?
Regards, Thorsten
On 11/5/2008, Marko Weber (marko.weber@salondigital.de) wrote:
even mails that are marked by sapmassassin , dspam marks them as "innocent".
How big is your spam/ham corpus? You do realize DSPAM requires a considerable amount of 'training' - meaning, a LOT of ham/spam in the corpus - before it starts to show its effectiveness?
ASSP may be a better fit if you want out of the box effectiveness, but it doesn't have individual quarantines, etc...
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Best regards,
Charles
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 22:31 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
yes it "seems" to work. But it tags all mails as "innocent". everyone. even mails that are marked by sapmassassin , dspam marks them as "innocent".
You should really solve your problem with DSPAM before using dovecot-antispam.
DSPAM's mailing list is the more appropriate place for these issues, but I will give some hints:
1. Do the initial testing according to DSPAM's README.
2. Perform extensive training using dspam_train. Subsequently, the
hit rate should be very high.
3. Correct further misclassifications with dspam --source=error
--class=innocent|spam --signature=... [--user ...], and verify
the result using dspam_stats.Unless you successfully complete these steps, the problem is not with dovecot-antispam.
Regards, Thorsten
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot
...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 - Starting dovecot ...
Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap
WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048
IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so
IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home=
WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with:
2048
[ ok ]
email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
Marko Weber schrieb:
Hello , yes it "seems" to work. But it tags all mails as "innocent". everyone. even mails that are marked by sapmassassin , dspam marks them as "innocent".
my goal is to work with dspam that it scans incoming mails and that this training via moving mails works. if i understand the dovecot-antispam right, = dspam scans mails on incoming, marks them. then via maildrop i can put them all into folder "SPAM" at example. when dspam tagged a mail as "spam" that is "not" spam., then i can move the mail from the SPAM folder into normal incoming folder. dspam then retrain the mail. also other way. if a mail comes into the normal incoming and is spam, i can then move the mail into SPAM and dspam get retrained.
sorry guys, i am not all a pro, but now, i sit since 7 days on it to get it work., i am very willing get this work.
so any1 can help me maybe to get this working ? i can paste all needed info u need to help me. at moment i stuck. dspam runs and marks mails, but i am sure i did some things wrong.
totally wrackey marko from hamburg :-)
thx
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:39 +0100, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:39 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Hello,. i installed dovecot with virtual user and domains. but i dont get thru "dovecot-antispam" config.
is there any HOWTO, for gentoo , how to setup and configure dovecot-antispam ? with examples for the config files ?
I assume that you have read antispam(7).
dovecot-antispam(7) on Gentoo
What other information do you need?
maybe i have dspam self totally wrong configured.
Did you verify that DSPAM works independently, i.e. without dovecot-antispam?
Regards, Thorsten
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
Did you verify that the training was successful? dspam_dump, dspam_stats
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
clamav TP: 1369 TN: 9765 FP: 3 FN: 25 SC: 10 NC: 1 dspam TP: 11092 TN: 2824 FP: 2 FN: 28 SC: 9 NC: 1 root TP: 11069 TN: 2810 FP: 3 FN: 40 SC: 11 NC: 1
i get this on dspam_stats Thorsten
marko
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
Did you verify that the training was successful? dspam_dump, dspam_stats
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:57 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
clamav TP: 1369 TN: 9765 FP: 3 FN: 25 SC: 10 NC: 1 dspam TP: 11092 TN: 2824 FP: 2 FN: 28 SC: 9 NC: 1 root TP: 11069 TN: 2810 FP: 3 FN: 40 SC: 11 NC: 1
i get this on dspam_stats Thorsten
I asked for dspam_dump as well. Are there tokens with spam hits?
But as I said before, your problem is with DSPAM, and you should ask for help on DSPAM's mailing list.
Regards, Thorsten
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I looked only briefly at the files: You need to set "signatureLocation=headers", but this is unrelated to your current problem.
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
Sending an actual spam message would have been more useful.
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
Hi Thorsten, i forwarded an spam mail to the server with dspam.
http://rafb.net/p/O7jBCp59.html
thx
marko
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I looked only briefly at the files: You need to set "signatureLocation=headers", but this is unrelated to your current problem.
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
Sending an actual spam message would have been more useful.
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
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On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 13:31 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I looked only briefly at the files: You need to set "signatureLocation=headers", but this is unrelated to your current problem.
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
Sending an actual spam message would have been more useful.
i forwarded an spam mail to the server with dspam.
Do the results improve if you disable the "naive" statistical algorithm?
You may also try Markovian weighting, but you need to disable ProcessorBias in that case.
Not all combinations of Tokenizer, PValue, Algorithm and ProcessorBias result in working setups. Try other ones. But remember that you need to rebuild the corpus if you change the tokenizer.
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
On 11/7/2008 8:07 AM, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:
Do the results improve if you disable the "naive" statistical algorithm?
You may also try Markovian weighting, but you need to disable ProcessorBias in that case.
This is getting way OT - please take to the DSAPM list or private...
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Best regards,
Charles
Hello Thorsten, i sorted out to get dspam working, but it tags too much mails as spam, even mials that are not spam,
now thats the poinzt where dovecot-antispam comes in, now my idea is, that mails that get "spam" tag by dspam, to retrain by "dovecot-antispam". but i dont get thru it. maybe this is now the pont where you can help me ?
marko
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 13:31 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Thorsten Vollmer schrieb:
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 17:03 +0100, Marko Weber wrote:
Ok i summarized some things, maybe any1 can give a comment to it =
when i restart dovecot i get this =
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192
- Stopping dovecot ...
[ ok ] Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192- Starting dovecot ... Warning: Growing pool 'settings' with: 8192 ILoading modules from directory: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap WGrowing pool 'module loader' with: 2048 IModule loaded: /usr/lib64/dovecot/imap/lib90_antispam_plugin.so IEffective uid=65534, gid=65534, home= WGrowing pool 'antispam-pool' with: 2048
[ ok ]email-headers of SPAM tagged mails (spamassassin + pyzor + razor detect them as spam cause they are spam) dspam tags the mails like this =
X-DSPAM RESULT Innocent X-DSPAM Confidence 0.8505 X-DSPAM Probability 0.0000
so, Spamassassin detect them as spam and dspam not ? (to an old mail in list question , yes i trained ca 10.000 spam mails against some not spam).
because this mail would grown in endless long text i pasted the configs on web =
POSTFIX main.cf = http://rafb.net/p/PQy5FN10.html POSTFIX master.cf = http://rafb.net/p/2l02A087.html DOVECOT dovecot.conf = http://rafb.net/p/PjvV1h44.html DSPAM dspam.conf = http://rafb.net/p/7O8lEf46.html
I looked only briefly at the files: You need to set "signatureLocation=headers", but this is unrelated to your current problem.
I use Postfix with "virtual users & domains"
dspam.debug shows this entries when i send a mail to the server = http://rafb.net/p/sbEqK070.html
Sending an actual spam message would have been more useful.
i forwarded an spam mail to the server with dspam.
Do the results improve if you disable the "naive" statistical algorithm?
You may also try Markovian weighting, but you need to disable ProcessorBias in that case.
Not all combinations of Tokenizer, PValue, Algorithm and ProcessorBias result in working setups. Try other ones. But remember that you need to rebuild the corpus if you change the tokenizer.
sorry, guys. but how do i get dspam working 100% , and how do i get this retraining working ? where i can move mails out spam into incoming and other way spam from incoming to spamfolder to retrain dspam.
yes, maybe alot stuff, but any feel free to help or to explain ?
thanks ahead from hamburg
marko
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Marko Weber
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Thorsten Vollmer