Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of private IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part, it is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of private IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for
After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other
years. things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without
errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part,
it
is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
On Dec 10, 2017 2:37 PM, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of private IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for
After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other
years. things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without
errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part,
it
is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
On December 10, 2017 3:39:05 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
On Dec 10, 2017 2:37 PM, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of
IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for
After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other
years. things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is
normally
robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote: private part,
it
is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Stephan h, may I ask why you do that? Just out of curiosity.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Which part? Hosting the email server at home or the relay in the cloud?
On Dec 10, 2017 14:53, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
On December 10, 2017 3:39:05 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
On Dec 10, 2017 2:37 PM, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of
IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for
After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other
years. things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is
normally
robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote: private part,
it
is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Stephan h, may I ask why you do that? Just out of curiosity.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
On December 10, 2017 5:25:46 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
Which part? Hosting the email server at home or the relay in the cloud?
On Dec 10, 2017 14:53, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
On December 10, 2017 3:39:05 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
On Dec 10, 2017 2:37 PM, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of
IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote:
Nice.
Are you using a static IP in this setup?
It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure.
Mike.
Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me:
> Hello everyone, > > I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails
> After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I > am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically. > > I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close > to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now. > > The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by > creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS > records. > > This is so far what I have achieved: > - Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt > - Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc. > - Automatic generation of a DKIM keys > - Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.) > - LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login. > - Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube > > Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured > as well, although basic. > > The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I > am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other
for years. things.
> > Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally > robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors. > > If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote: private part,
it
> is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox > > Kind regards, > André Rodier.
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Stephan h, may I ask why you do that? Just out of curiosity.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Both; the whole setup.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Originally I was on a business connection, so no port blocking. I moved to a residential connection at home and they blocked port 25. So I enabled my VPS in the cloud to relay my mail to the imap server in my home. It's a very simple setup. I only allow a couple IPs to relay anything through ( my home IP and other VPS's). Any other connection must be delivering to my IP or it's rejected. Then In the transport maps tell it to utilize a non standard port
domain.com relay:[home.domain.com:28]
On the home server's postfix I just define the relay host which also uses a non standard port
relayhost: [vps1.domain.com:26]
At this point you just have to setup your postfix/dovecot config how you want. I'm using postfixadmin and both postfix and dovecot use mysql to determine domains, users, and passwords.
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Fabian A. Santiago < fsantiago@garbage-juice.com> wrote:
On December 10, 2017 5:25:46 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
Which part? Hosting the email server at home or the relay in the cloud?
On Dec 10, 2017 14:53, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
On December 10, 2017 3:39:05 PM EST, Stephan H herker@gmail.com wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
On Dec 10, 2017 2:37 PM, "Fabian A. Santiago" fsantiago@garbage-juice.com wrote:
Hello Mike,
Yes, I am using a static IP address, but in theory, you could use a dynamic one.
Nothing technically would prevent email exchanges between two boxes, as long as the SPF records are up to date and the DKIM is properly setup.
Unfortunately, some ISPs are simply blacklisting full range of
IP addresses just because they are not officials / commercials.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:24, Mike wrote: > > Nice. > > Are you using a static IP in this setup? > > It doesn't seem like it, but wanted to be sure. > > Mike. > > Quoting André Rodier andre@rodier.me: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. >> After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I >> am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically. >> >> I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close >> to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now. >> >> The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by >> creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS >> records. >> >> This is so far what I have achieved: >> - Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt >> - Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc. >> - Automatic generation of a DKIM keys >> - Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.) >> - LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login. >> - Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube >> >> Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured >> as well, although basic. >> >> The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I >> am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things. >> >> Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally >> robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors. >> >> If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take
On December 10, 2017 2:49:35 PM EST, "André Rodier" andre@rodier.me wrote: private part,
it >> is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox >> >> Kind regards, >> André Rodier. > >
Non static ip'd mail servers are also blocked because they're typically spammers.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Stephan h, may I ask why you do that? Just out of curiosity.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
Both; the whole setup.
Thanks,
Fabian S.
OpenPGP: 3C3FA072ACCB7AC5DB0F723455502B0EEB9070FC
On 12/10/2017 12:39 PM, Stephan H wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
My MX points at a leased virtual server and my home server uses fetchmail to pull the mail into local mailboxes. I suppose dsync might be used instead of fetchmail.
thatis not secure and you might as well use gmail
It is not so hard to just get a static IP and put a mail server up.
fit/pc has perfect boxes for this, run on about 15w/h power
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 02:42:36PM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
On 12/10/2017 12:39 PM, Stephan H wrote:
I have dovecot postfix setup on my home server as well. I use a virtual server in the cloud as my mx record and mail relay and have my home record on dynamic dns. It's really effective.
My MX points at a leased virtual server and my home server uses fetchmail to pull the mail into local mailboxes. I suppose dsync might be used instead of fetchmail.
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
--On Monday, December 11, 2017 1:07 PM -0500 Ruben Safir ruben@mrbrklyn.com wrote:
thatis not secure and you might as well use gmail
It is not so hard to just get a static IP and put a mail server up.
Why do you think this isn't secure?
Gmail wouldn't let me run my own spam and AV solution. My external server gives me full control, with sendmail, MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin, ClamAV, dovecot, and procmail. I could, in principle, keep a remote copy of all my mail there and dsync it to my home server. I'm using fetchmail (with SSL option) only because I didn't understand dsync when I set it up.
I'm still a bit unclear on how dsync decides which users to sync. All my users are real system users, not virtual users. I'd like to retire my 3 older accounts on my home system to never receive email again, only provide it for archival reading, and direct all my mail to new accounts that could be dsync'd to the leased external server. So I'd want to limit dsync to only sync the new accounts. Which might even be virtual.
what I said, not what you said...
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:41:44AM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
--On Monday, December 11, 2017 1:07 PM -0500 Ruben Safir ruben@mrbrklyn.com wrote:
thatis not secure and you might as well use gmail
It is not so hard to just get a static IP and put a mail server up.
Why do you think this isn't secure?
Gmail wouldn't let me run my own spam and AV solution. My external server gives me full control, with sendmail, MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin, ClamAV, dovecot, and procmail. I could, in principle, keep a remote copy of all my mail there and dsync it to my home server. I'm using fetchmail (with SSL option) only because I didn't understand dsync when I set it up.
I'm still a bit unclear on how dsync decides which users to sync. All my users are real system users, not virtual users. I'd like to retire my 3 older accounts on my home system to never receive email again, only provide it for archival reading, and direct all my mail to new accounts that could be dsync'd to the leased external server. So I'd want to limit dsync to only sync the new accounts. Which might even be virtual.
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
participants (5)
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André Rodier
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Fabian A. Santiago
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Kenneth Porter
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Ruben Safir
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Stephan H