[Dovecot] Removal of mailist duplicates?
I am using mpop to fetch mail from my service provider (who use dovecot).
I use dovecot to hold all my mail on a local slackware server, with sieve filters, based on 'List-Id', directing mailist postings to their own folders.
I use thunderbird to read my mail on an ubuntu desktop.
When I receive a reply to a posting I make to a mailist (such as this one), replies I receive are usually sent to me with cc to the list.
I would expect, then, to receive the message twice - once in my personal mailbox, and once to the mailist folder. However, this doesn't happen - I only see the posting in the mailist folder.
Can anyone tell me at which stage in the process the other message is being supressed?
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Peter Bell Mob: +63 (0) 9287 340 343 Tagum City, Philippines. Tel: +63 (0) 84 400 5085 email/msn: peter@bellfamily.org.uk Tel: +44 (0) 118 331 0000
Peter Bell wrote:
When I receive a reply to a posting I make to a mailist (such as this one), replies I receive are usually sent to me with cc to the list.
I would expect, then, to receive the message twice - once in my personal mailbox, and once to the mailist folder. However, this doesn't happen - I only see the posting in the mailist folder.
Can anyone tell me at which stage in the process the other message is being supressed?
I usually reply (all) to lists AND suppress the copy going to the OP. Such as in this case. I would expect you NOT to receive a personal reply. 'I' am suppressing the copy (in this case). I would not be surprised if other people do that.
OT: Sometimes, people posting replies only do 'reply', not 'reply all', and so their posting never hits the list and, as a result, others who are following the thread sometimes miss postings.
regards, Ron
On 2011-06-16 7:38 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
I usually reply (all) to lists AND suppress the copy going to the OP.
I used to have to do that, so I sure was glad when Thunderbird implemented the Reply-To-List function... now I just press CTRL-SHIFT-L, and if nothing happens I know the list is one of the brain dead ones that doesn't have proper list headers (like the yahoo lists), and then I fall back to the old CTRL-SHIFT-R (Reply All) and then delete the one to the OP...
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Best regards,
Charles
On Thursday, 16 June, 2011 07:38 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2011-06-16 7:38 AM, Ron Leach wrote:
I usually reply (all) to lists AND suppress the copy going to the OP.
I used to have to do that, so I sure was glad when Thunderbird implemented the Reply-To-List function... now I just press CTRL-SHIFT-L, and if nothing happens I know the list is one of the brain dead ones that doesn't have proper list headers (like the yahoo lists), and then I fall back to the old CTRL-SHIFT-R (Reply All) and then delete the one to the OP...
Indeed, both respondents to my post have taken care to only reply to list, however, here is an extract from the headers of an old post:
To: Peter Bell <peter@bellfamily.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DCA7AC2.7010801@bellfamily.org.uk> References: <4DCA0409.4030702@bellfamily.org.uk> <2D2123E9-1CDC-4563-95B8-4575771DEC00@iki.fi> <4DCA7AC2.7010801@bellfamily.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:26:32 +0300 Message-ID: <1305116792.10421.191.camel@hurina> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot@dovecot.org> Subject: Re: [Dovecot] Error messages in log X-BeenThere: dovecot@dovecot.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot@dovecot.org> List-Id: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot.dovecot.org>
I would have expected to see two copies of this post - preferably one in my normal inbox, the other redirected by pigeonhole, to my dovecot mailist folder. However, I could only find a single copy (in my dovecot folder) so have to believe that something, somewhere, eliminated the duplicate.
My curiosity was aroused because I received a reply on another mailist, before I had configured a separate folder and sieve filter for it. In that case, the message which survived was the one sent directly to my inbox - the copy to the mailist disappeared. This makes me think the the duplicate removal must be happening somewhere in pigeonhole/dovecot/thunderbird since none of the stages before those would have any knowledge about the existence of the separate folder. However, I have have searched in the configurations, and failed to find any configuration setting which controls duplicate removal.
I'm not unhappy that I only see a single copy, but I would like to know what became of the other one - I feel uneasy when things disappear without explanation!
BTW, I used Thunderbird's 'reply list' button when posting this, so the only copy should be the one to the mailist.
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Peter Bell Mob: +63 (0) 9287 340 343 Tagum City, Philippines. Tel: +63 (0) 84 400 5085 email/msn: peter@bellfamily.org.uk Tel: +44 (0) 118 331 0000
On 2011-06-16 10:40 AM, Peter Bell wrote:
I would have expected to see two copies of this post - preferably one in my normal inbox, the other redirected by pigeonhole, to my dovecot mailist folder. However, I could only find a single copy (in my dovecot folder) so have to believe that something, somewhere, eliminated the duplicate.
To the best of my knowledge, Dovecot does NOT do message de-duplication like this - I've even seen questions about it since Cyrus apparently has this capability, and seen Timo say dovecot does not do this at this time.
So, I'd be looking elsewhere...
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Best regards,
Charles
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:49:04AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2011-06-16 10:40 AM, Peter Bell wrote:
I would have expected to see two copies of this post - preferably one in my normal inbox, the other redirected by pigeonhole, to my dovecot mailist folder. However, I could only find a single copy (in my dovecot folder) so have to believe that something, somewhere, eliminated the duplicate.
To the best of my knowledge, Dovecot does NOT do message de-duplication like this - I've even seen questions about it since Cyrus apparently has this capability, and seen Timo say dovecot does not do this at this time.
So, I'd be looking elsewhere...
The list is run by mailman. There is a mailman setting for allowing / blocking duplicates.
-- Monte
On 2011-06-16 10:53 AM, Monte Stevens wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:49:04AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, Dovecot does NOT do message de-duplication like this - I've even seen questions about it since Cyrus apparently has this capability, and seen Timo say dovecot does not do this at this time.
So, I'd be looking elsewhere...
The list is run by mailman. There is a mailman setting for allowing / blocking duplicates.
Yes, but that setting suppresses the LIST copy, not the INDIVIDUAL copy... Peter was missing the INDIVIDUAL copy...
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Best regards,
Charles
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Charles Marcus
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Monte Stevens
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Peter Bell
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Ron Leach