[Dovecot] Possible fix to an old Thunderbird related problem
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25 and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25 ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What was happening was that the message counts were increasing but the messages didn't show up in the list. Or messages would appear to be empty. Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird fixes the problem temporarily. I'm hoping this annoyance will go away now.
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
Marc Perkel wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25 and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25 ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What was happening was that the message counts were increasing but the messages didn't show up in the list. Or messages would appear to be empty. Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird fixes the problem temporarily. I'm hoping this annoyance will go away now.
On 7/12/2009 12:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
I'm sure Timo and others (myself included) would like more details...
*What* is broken?
Dovecot config details (dovecot -n output and other info that isn't provided by that output)?
Logs exhibiting the problem?
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Best regards,
Charles
Charles Marcus wrote:
On 7/12/2009 12:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
I'm sure Timo and others (myself included) would like more details...
*What* is broken?
Dovecot config details (dovecot -n output and other info that isn't provided by that output)?
Logs exhibiting the problem?
I'm not sure where the problem is. Thunderbird always starts out fine. But after running for some time the message count of unread message will increase on folder with new messages but when you click on the folders the new messages don't appear. Or messages appear but seem to be empty messages. When selecting to empty the trash - the trash doesn't empty, ot the count of messages in trash will drop down somewhat.
Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird always solves the problem for a while. I noticed the problem got a lot worse recently and the last change was upgrading to 1.2.1. But it's been a serious annoyance for over a year.
Nothing strange in the logs to report. Wish I had more information.
Marc Perkel wrote:
Charles Marcus wrote:
On 7/12/2009 12:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
I'm sure Timo and others (myself included) would like more details...
*What* is broken?
Dovecot config details (dovecot -n output and other info that isn't provided by that output)?
Logs exhibiting the problem?
I'm not sure where the problem is. Thunderbird always starts out fine. But after running for some time the message count of unread message will increase on folder with new messages but when you click on the folders the new messages don't appear. Or messages appear but seem to be empty messages. When selecting to empty the trash - the trash doesn't empty, ot the count of messages in trash will drop down somewhat.
Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird always solves the problem for a while. I noticed the problem got a lot worse recently and the last change was upgrading to 1.2.1. But it's been a serious annoyance for over a year.
Nothing strange in the logs to report. Wish I had more information.
I see this every now and then with Thunderbird as well; just today, in fact. Nothing strange (other than this) to report and no errors in the logs. I'm on 1.1.17.
I know I'm absolutely no help, but it's not just you. ;)
~Seth
Seth Mattinen wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
Charles Marcus wrote:
On 7/12/2009 12:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
I'm sure Timo and others (myself included) would like more details...
*What* is broken?
Dovecot config details (dovecot -n output and other info that isn't provided by that output)?
Logs exhibiting the problem?
I'm not sure where the problem is. Thunderbird always starts out fine. But after running for some time the message count of unread message will increase on folder with new messages but when you click on the folders the new messages don't appear. Or messages appear but seem to be empty messages. When selecting to empty the trash - the trash doesn't empty, ot the count of messages in trash will drop down somewhat.
Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird always solves the problem for a while. I noticed the problem got a lot worse recently and the last change was upgrading to 1.2.1. But it's been a serious annoyance for over a year.
Nothing strange in the logs to report. Wish I had more information.
I see this every now and then with Thunderbird as well; just today, in fact. Nothing strange (other than this) to report and no errors in the logs. I'm on 1.1.17.
I know I'm absolutely no help, but it's not just you. ;)
~Seth
Actually knowing it's just not me is somewhat helpful. :)
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Marc Perkel wrote:
I'm not sure where the problem is. Thunderbird always starts out fine. But after running for some time the message count of unread message will increase
Well, I use SeaMonkey at home, maybe it has the same problem as Thunderbird:
If SeaMonkey is able to open a connection to the server, but then the corresponse stops, SeaMonkey seems to do nothing, although it waits for a transmission for eons.
I have this problem in conjunction with Cisco Firewall IDS stuff and some virus scanners that both stumble over STARTTLS. Sometimes when the internet connection gets very busy or down completely.
Can you trace the connections from your local client to the IMAP server, e.g. with Wireshark?
Bye,
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On 12.07.2009 20:23, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
Marc Perkel wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25 and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25 ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What was happening was that the message counts were increasing but the messages didn't show up in the list. Or messages would appear to be empty. Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird fixes the problem temporarily. I'm hoping this annoyance will go away now.
There a lot things changed in TB3 currently and TB3 beta 3 should land in weeks, give a try. I've remember folder count numbers was on buglist. I've not seeing such issues since beginning of this year (I'm on trunk)
Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 12.07.2009 20:23, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
Marc Perkel wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25 and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25 ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What was happening was that the message counts were increasing but the messages didn't show up in the list. Or messages would appear to be empty. Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird fixes the problem temporarily. I'm hoping this annoyance will go away now.
There a lot things changed in TB3 currently and TB3 beta 3 should land in weeks, give a try. I've remember folder count numbers was on buglist. I've not seeing such issues since beginning of this year (I'm on trunk)
So - is it stable enough to use?
On 13.07.2009 7:32, Marc Perkel wrote:
Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 12.07.2009 20:23, Marc Perkel wrote:
I spoke too soon. Thunderbird is still broken. And it's really frustrating.
Marc Perkel wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25 and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25 ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What was happening was that the message counts were increasing but the messages didn't show up in the list. Or messages would appear to be empty. Restarting Dovecot or restarting Thunderbird fixes the problem temporarily. I'm hoping this annoyance will go away now.
There a lot things changed in TB3 currently and TB3 beta 3 should land in weeks, give a try. I've remember folder count numbers was on buglist. I've not seeing such issues since beginning of this year (I'm on trunk)
So - is it stable enough to use?
Generally yes, still backup your profile is good idea. I suggest wait till beta 3, in Jule 21. It _much_ better for IMAP, since TB2 release. Caching was introducing by default for IMAP messages. CONDSTORE also supported by now, which allow even more minimize traffic. RFC 4978 landed just month ago. And that just top of iceberg of changes and bugfixes are done.
On Jul 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the
max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25
I thought it defaulted to 5?
and I had login process count set to 10. I think raising it to 25
ill fix it. Just posting this in case others are having this problem.
What about:
#mail_max_userip_connections = 10
On 7/12/2009, Timo Sirainen (tss@iki.fi) wrote:
I think I might have finally fixed it. The problem was that the max_cached_connections in Thunderbird defaults to 25
I thought it defaulted to 5?
Missed that... you are correct it does (just confirmed with a new profile/account setup)...
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Best regards,
Charles
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Charles Marcus
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Marc Perkel
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Nikolay Shopik
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Seth Mattinen
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Steffen Kaiser
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Timo Sirainen