Auto MX Email Client configuration, the right way?
Hi Friends! An opinion.
I would like to facilitate the configuration of one's mail client (desktop or mobile) to my users server. Some time ago I asked the same question and you suggested me to use "Automx".
So I started of good will and I looked for the Automx documentation. And here the problems started as I found several inconsistencies, even parameters (in official documentation) that produce Apache errors.. to complicate things, different path between deb packages and official version :-)
Now I've seen the new RFC 6186 specification (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6186) that describe a "DNS way" to achieve the same goal.
[..] 4. Guidance for MUAs
By using SRV records as above, MUAs need initially only to prompt the
user for their email address [RFC5322]. The "local-part" and
"domain" portions are then extracted from the email address by the
MUA. The MUA uses the "domain" portion as the service domain to
perform SRV lookups for the services it wants to configure. If the
SRV lookup is successful, the target FQDN and port for the service
can be determined and used to complete MUA configuration. If an SRV
record is not found, the MUA will need to prompt the user to enter
the FQDN and port information directly, or use some other heuristic.
In the case of multiple SRV records returned for a particular
service, the MUA MUST use the priority and weight fields in the
record to determine which one to use (as per [RFC2782]).[..]
again: [..] When a user identifier is required, MUAs MUST first use the full email address provided by the user, and if that results in an authentication failure, SHOULD fall back to using the "local- part" extracted from the email address. This is in line with the guidance outlined in Section 5. If both these user identifiers result in authentication failure, the MUA SHOULD prompt the user for a valid identifier. [..]
here I have the biggest doubt, in fact Thunderbird often uses only the username and not the whole email address, both for incoming and outgoing server... Is any of you using this second way? And possibly, do you kniw if it works with different clients (desktop and mobile)?
Many many thanks!
Davide
On 09.03.19 19:43, Davide Marchi via dovecot wrote:
Hi Friends! An opinion.
I would like to facilitate the configuration of one's mail client (desktop or mobile) to my users server. Some time ago I asked the same question and you suggested me to use "Automx".
So I started of good will and I looked for the Automx documentation. And here the problems started as I found several inconsistencies, even parameters (in official documentation) that produce Apache errors.. to complicate things, different path between deb packages and official version :-)
Now I've seen the new RFC 6186 specification (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6186) that describe a "DNS way" to achieve the same goal.
[..] 4. Guidance for MUAs
By using SRV records as above, MUAs need initially only to prompt the user for their email address [RFC5322]. The "local-part" and "domain" portions are then extracted from the email address by the MUA. The MUA uses the "domain" portion as the service domain to perform SRV lookups for the services it wants to configure. If the SRV lookup is successful, the target FQDN and port for the service can be determined and used to complete MUA configuration. If an SRV record is not found, the MUA will need to prompt the user to enter the FQDN and port information directly, or use some other heuristic. In the case of multiple SRV records returned for a particular service, the MUA MUST use the priority and weight fields in the record to determine which one to use (as per [RFC2782]).
[..]
again: [..] When a user identifier is required, MUAs MUST first use the full email address provided by the user, and if that results in an authentication failure, SHOULD fall back to using the "local- part" extracted from the email address. This is in line with the guidance outlined in Section 5. If both these user identifiers result in authentication failure, the MUA SHOULD prompt the user for a valid identifier. [..]
here I have the biggest doubt, in fact Thunderbird often uses only the username and not the whole email address, both for incoming and outgoing server... Is any of you using this second way? And possibly, do you kniw if it works with different clients (desktop and mobile)?
Many many thanks!
Davide
Thunderbrid als support this own way:
On 09.03.19 19:43, Davide Marchi via dovecot wrote:
Hi Friends! An opinion.
I would like to facilitate the configuration of one's mail client (desktop or mobile) to my users server. Some time ago I asked the same question and you suggested me to use "Automx".
So I started of good will and I looked for the Automx documentation. And here the problems started as I found several inconsistencies, even parameters (in official documentation) that produce Apache errors.. to complicate things, different path between deb packages and official version :-)
Now I've seen the new RFC 6186 specification (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6186) that describe a "DNS way" to achieve the same goal.
[..] 4. Guidance for MUAs
By using SRV records as above, MUAs need initially only to prompt the user for their email address [RFC5322]. The "local-part" and "domain" portions are then extracted from the email address by the MUA. The MUA uses the "domain" portion as the service domain to perform SRV lookups for the services it wants to configure. If the SRV lookup is successful, the target FQDN and port for the service can be determined and used to complete MUA configuration. If an SRV record is not found, the MUA will need to prompt the user to enter the FQDN and port information directly, or use some other heuristic. In the case of multiple SRV records returned for a particular service, the MUA MUST use the priority and weight fields in the record to determine which one to use (as per [RFC2782]).
[..]
again: [..] When a user identifier is required, MUAs MUST first use the full email address provided by the user, and if that results in an authentication failure, SHOULD fall back to using the "local- part" extracted from the email address. This is in line with the guidance outlined in Section 5. If both these user identifiers result in authentication failure, the MUA SHOULD prompt the user for a valid identifier. [..]
here I have the biggest doubt, in fact Thunderbird often uses only the username and not the whole email address, both for incoming and outgoing server... Is any of you using this second way? And possibly, do you kniw if it works with different clients (desktop and mobile)?
Many many thanks!
Davide
Thunderbrid als support this own way:
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