[Dovecot] Index maintenance
Hi.
I am unable to find information about what happens to the index file if I use something like the cron script at the bottom of http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Expire
There must be some information in the index that is no longer needed. When and how will Dovecot clean this up?
Thanks, Anders.
Anders wrote:
I am unable to find information about what happens to the index file if I use something like the cron script at the bottom of http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Expire
There must be some information in the index that is no longer needed. When and how will Dovecot clean this up?
A similar question is whether the expire plugin will help me at all, when it is only used for folders that receive new messages each day?
Will the expire-tool give me the index maintenance that I am looking for?
Thanks, Anders.
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 09:58 +0200, Anders wrote:
Anders wrote:
I am unable to find information about what happens to the index file if I use something like the cron script at the bottom of http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Expire
There must be some information in the index that is no longer needed. When and how will Dovecot clean this up?
When the mailbox is next opened by a client (or STATUS command issued).
A similar question is whether the expire plugin will help me at all, when it is only used for folders that receive new messages each day?
Will the expire-tool give me the index maintenance that I am looking for?
Do you mean that no clients would ever even see the messages? If you're using Dovecot's deliver they are also expunged.
Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 09:58 +0200, Anders wrote:
Anders wrote:
I am unable to find information about what happens to the index file if I use something like the cron script at the bottom of http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Expire
There must be some information in the index that is no longer needed. When and how will Dovecot clean this up?
When the mailbox is next opened by a client (or STATUS command issued).
Does this mean that if users never check the folder, the index file will grow indefinitely, even though I delete old messages every night?
This is a spam folder, so it is not unlikely that it could remain unread.
A similar question is whether the expire plugin will help me at all, when it is only used for folders that receive new messages each day?
Will the expire-tool give me the index maintenance that I am looking for?
Do you mean that no clients would ever even see the messages? If you're using Dovecot's deliver they are also expunged.
Just to be sure: this means that deliver will clean up the index as soon as the next spam arrives? That would be okay, even though some users are still on procmail.
Then it seems to me that the expire-tool does not give me much advantage, and adds the burden of an extra database. I guess it is most useful if you have it watch folders that are not used every day?
Thanks, Anders.
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 01:17 +0200, Anders wrote:
Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 09:58 +0200, Anders wrote:
Anders wrote:
I am unable to find information about what happens to the index file if I use something like the cron script at the bottom of http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Expire
There must be some information in the index that is no longer needed. When and how will Dovecot clean this up?
When the mailbox is next opened by a client (or STATUS command issued).
Does this mean that if users never check the folder, the index file will grow indefinitely, even though I delete old messages every night?
No. If something is adding new data to indexes, it's also removing the old data. So if you're using deliver it does both of it. (If you're not using deliver, then nothing is adding new mails to the index anyway.)
A similar question is whether the expire plugin will help me at all, when it is only used for folders that receive new messages each day?
Will the expire-tool give me the index maintenance that I am looking for?
Do you mean that no clients would ever even see the messages? If you're using Dovecot's deliver they are also expunged.
Just to be sure: this means that deliver will clean up the index as soon as the next spam arrives? That would be okay, even though some users are still on procmail.
deliver will clean the index from those mails that have already been expunged externally, but it doesn't expunge any new messages. It just marks timestamp to the expire database when expire-tool should next check this mailbox.
Then it seems to me that the expire-tool does not give me much advantage, and adds the burden of an extra database. I guess it is most useful if you have it watch folders that are not used every day?
I also thought about having expire plugin do the expunging directly instead of always leaving the job to expire-tool, but currently it doesn't support it. One problem with that would be that it could slow down mail deliveries or interactive IMAP session by expunging lots of messages. Also in large systems the expunge runs could be done while there's less disk I/O going on.
Timo Sirainen wrote:
No. If something is adding new data to indexes, it's also removing the old data. So if you're using deliver it does both of it. (If you're not using deliver, then nothing is adding new mails to the index anyway.)
Right. I got that mixed up a bit.
Good to have you back :-).
Thanks, Anders.
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