[Dovecot] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailServerOverview contains poppycock
Just having another look at http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailServerOverview , it seems to have some statements in it which are misleading, and some which are really ... well ... wrong.
Quote: "With the possible, optional, exception of the deliver MDA, Dovecot is not involved with reception, delivery, and storage of mail. That function is provided by a MTA such as postfix http://www.postfix.org. It is the MTA that determines where and how mail is stored - Dovecot must then be configured to retrieve the mail accordingly." (Entered by user "amfes".)
This contains a significant proportion of poppycock.
Dovecot includes extensive functionality for the storage (as in the action of storing) of e-mail as well as retrieval, in the shape of the LDA.
Using Dovecot's LDA is /required/ in the case of Dovecot-specific mail storage formats (sdbox, mdbox).
With mbox, use of the Dovecot LDA is advisable since it will guarantee a locking strategy which is compatible with Dovecot's mail retrieval functionality.
And in any case, use of the Dovecot LDA has merit in that it should guarantee line-up between the mailstore configurations used for storage and retrieval.
It is NOT the MTA that determines where and how mail is stored. It is the PERSON who configures the system who decides this, and codifies that configuration into whatever systems carry out local delivery and retrieval.
It IS true that use of Dovecot's LDA is optional, but to say that it is a "possible exception" is misleading. People /should/ use the Dovecot LDA if they are using Dovecot IMAP/POP, and the /option/ is to use the MTA's local delivery system /if/ it is so indicated on a particular system.
Quote: "Again, it bears repeating, Dovecot /is not responsible for mail delivery or storage/. Any questions on these issues involve your MTA and MDA. Get those working first." (Entered by user "DanielMiller".)
Again, contains quite a lot of misleading nonsense.
"Mail delivery" includes the hand-off of the message by the MTA to the LDA, and the storage of the message by the LDA. The LDA should probably be Dovecot, so really Dovecot /is/ partially responsible for mail delivery.
"Storage" involves that placing of message into the message store. This should be done by Dovecot, so Dovecot is responsible for this.
Bill
Instead of complaining, why not just fix it (it is a wiki after all) and *then* post your email explaining the changes you made?
On 2011-03-22 8:28 AM, William Blunn wrote:
Just having another look at http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailServerOverview , it seems to have some statements in it which are misleading, and some which are really ... well ... wrong.
Quote: "With the possible, optional, exception of the deliver MDA, Dovecot is not involved with reception, delivery, and storage of mail. That function is provided by a MTA such as postfix http://www.postfix.org. It is the MTA that determines where and how mail is stored - Dovecot must then be configured to retrieve the mail accordingly." (Entered by user "amfes".)
This contains a significant proportion of poppycock.
Dovecot includes extensive functionality for the storage (as in the action of storing) of e-mail as well as retrieval, in the shape of the LDA.
Using Dovecot's LDA is /required/ in the case of Dovecot-specific mail storage formats (sdbox, mdbox).
With mbox, use of the Dovecot LDA is advisable since it will guarantee a locking strategy which is compatible with Dovecot's mail retrieval functionality.
And in any case, use of the Dovecot LDA has merit in that it should guarantee line-up between the mailstore configurations used for storage and retrieval.
It is NOT the MTA that determines where and how mail is stored. It is the PERSON who configures the system who decides this, and codifies that configuration into whatever systems carry out local delivery and retrieval.
It IS true that use of Dovecot's LDA is optional, but to say that it is a "possible exception" is misleading. People /should/ use the Dovecot LDA if they are using Dovecot IMAP/POP, and the /option/ is to use the MTA's local delivery system /if/ it is so indicated on a particular system.
Quote: "Again, it bears repeating, Dovecot /is not responsible for mail delivery or storage/. Any questions on these issues involve your MTA and MDA. Get those working first." (Entered by user "DanielMiller".)
Again, contains quite a lot of misleading nonsense.
"Mail delivery" includes the hand-off of the message by the MTA to the LDA, and the storage of the message by the LDA. The LDA should probably be Dovecot, so really Dovecot /is/ partially responsible for mail delivery.
"Storage" involves that placing of message into the message store. This should be done by Dovecot, so Dovecot is responsible for this.
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Best regards,
Charles
On 22/03/2011 13:00, Charles Marcus wrote:
Instead of complaining, why not just fix it (it is a wiki after all) and *then* post your email explaining the changes you made?
For changes for the better to come to fruition, a number of things need to happen, only one of which is actually making the changes.
So initially I was identifying problems, and possible solutions. I posted a message in case there would be anything to be gained from a discussion on the subject.
After reflection, I decided it might be as well to come up with some new words which should be right enough that they would be an improvement on the existing text even if they needed further work later.
So I made changes to the wiki.
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailServerOverview
After making changes in the wiki, I saw your message.
Bill
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