Many good suggestions and comments. But while I was trying to do it right (silly me), the brass hat got it working with whatever is on the phone and I am told that everything is fine (until it isn't). Thanks to all who responded

==== Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Henderson Computer Resources Center of Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York 12504 sdean@bard.edu voice: 845-758-7475, fax: 845-758-7035