[Dovecot] Converting from MBOX to Maildir broke procmail and Spamassasin and halted incoming mail
I could use some help here -
As I use Dovecot I started here when trying to figure out why I could
not add new mail folders under my Mac's Mail program, but could under
Thunderbird.
It was quickly pointed out that my system was set up to use MBOX and
not MAILDIR, and some helpful links and notes were sent back and forth
giving me a good clue as to how to perform the conversion process.
I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox to
maildir, but then ran aground.
I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I
could not see any of my incoming mail.
What I was late in realizing was that I needed to also adjust the
settings for my LDA, which as I am using sendmail is procmail, and it
was suggested that I needed to adjust /etc/procmail to include the line
DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
I did that, but new mail still didn't show up correctly. I can only
assume that I have something still not properly adjusted in my
procmail settings.
Given that I got everything else to work, and even successfully
upgraded dovecot, it was very frustrating to set everything back to
square one with mbox so that I had a functioning system once again.
I am about to have some time on my hands and am going to try again -
but this time I thought I would ask for help before I possibly loose
my ability to receive new mail - makes reading those suggestions very
hard.
At present, my etc/procmailrc file is like this.
[dan@trailrunner etc]$ cat procmailrc # send mail through SpamAssassin :0 fw
- < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f
In each users Home directory I have a .procmailrc file that further
directs things on a user level.
For my directory this file is currently
[dan@trailrunner ~]$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
PROBABLYJUNK = /home/dan/mail/probably-spam
:O H probably-spam
- ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes { EXITCODE=67 :0:
}
I admit that I set up Spamassasin some years ago and though I have
updated things now and then, I don't recall all of the reasoning
behind the setup - just know that it has been working.
Whether I put the new line "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/" in one file, the
other or both - I got no incoming mail. My guess was that I had
offended promail in one way or another.
So, as I prepare to do the MBOX to MAILDIR conversion once again, does
anyone have any guidance to offer for how to properly adjust the
procmail files so that I can continue to filter spam?
Much appreciated.
Cheers - dan
on 9-17-2008 11:39 AM Dan Roberts spake the following:
I could use some help here -
As I use Dovecot I started here when trying to figure out why I could not add new mail folders under my Mac's Mail program, but could under Thunderbird.
It was quickly pointed out that my system was set up to use MBOX and not MAILDIR, and some helpful links and notes were sent back and forth giving me a good clue as to how to perform the conversion process.
I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox to maildir, but then ran aground.
I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I could not see any of my incoming mail.
What I was late in realizing was that I needed to also adjust the settings for my LDA, which as I am using sendmail is procmail, and it was suggested that I needed to adjust /etc/procmail to include the line
DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
I did that, but new mail still didn't show up correctly. I can only assume that I have something still not properly adjusted in my procmail settings.
Given that I got everything else to work, and even successfully upgraded dovecot, it was very frustrating to set everything back to square one with mbox so that I had a functioning system once again. I am about to have some time on my hands and am going to try again - but this time I thought I would ask for help before I possibly loose my ability to receive new mail - makes reading those suggestions very hard.
At present, my etc/procmailrc file is like this.
[dan@trailrunner etc]$ cat procmailrc # send mail through SpamAssassin :0 fw
- < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f
In each users Home directory I have a .procmailrc file that further directs things on a user level. For my directory this file is currently
[dan@trailrunner ~]$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
PROBABLYJUNK = /home/dan/mail/probably-spam
:O H probably-spam
- ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes { EXITCODE=67 :0:
}
I admit that I set up Spamassasin some years ago and though I have updated things now and then, I don't recall all of the reasoning behind the setup - just know that it has been working.
Whether I put the new line "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/" in one file, the other or both - I got no incoming mail. My guess was that I had offended promail in one way or another.
So, as I prepare to do the MBOX to MAILDIR conversion once again, does anyone have any guidance to offer for how to properly adjust the procmail files so that I can continue to filter spam?
Much appreciated.
Cheers - dan
How old is the distro on the system? Older versions of procmail don't support maildir.
-- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't!!!!
Hi Scott -
How would I tell? I built the box from scratch and set up CentOS
Linux 5 up on it - over one year, probably not more than three.
I had been running with a RedHat system prior to that - and I may well
have copied the procmailrc settings from that -- don't actually
recall. But Dovecot, Procmail and Spamassasin all came up fresh with
the install of CentOS.
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott Silva wrote:
on 9-17-2008 11:39 AM Dan Roberts spake the following:
I could use some help here - As I use Dovecot I started here when trying to figure out why I
could not add new mail folders under my Mac's Mail program, but
could under Thunderbird. It was quickly pointed out that my system was set up to use MBOX
and not MAILDIR, and some helpful links and notes were sent back
and forth giving me a good clue as to how to perform the conversion
process. I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox
to maildir, but then ran aground. I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I
could not see any of my incoming mail. What I was late in realizing was that I needed to also adjust the
settings for my LDA, which as I am using sendmail is procmail, and
it was suggested that I needed to adjust /etc/procmail to include
the line DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ I did that, but new mail still didn't show up correctly. I can
only assume that I have something still not properly adjusted in my
procmail settings. Given that I got everything else to work, and even successfully
upgraded dovecot, it was very frustrating to set everything back to
square one with mbox so that I had a functioning system once
again. I am about to have some time on my hands and am going to
try again - but this time I thought I would ask for help before I
possibly loose my ability to receive new mail - makes reading those
suggestions very hard. At present, my etc/procmailrc file is like this.[dan@trailrunner etc]$ cat procmailrc # send mail through SpamAssassin :0 fw
- < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f
In each users Home directory I have a .procmailrc file that further
directs things on a user level. For my directory this file is currently[dan@trailrunner ~]$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PROBABLYJUNK = /home/dan/mail/probably-spam :O H probably-spam
- ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes { EXITCODE=67 :0:
}
I admit that I set up Spamassasin some years ago and though I have
updated things now and then, I don't recall all of the reasoning
behind the setup - just know that it has been working. Whether I put the new line "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/" in one file,
the other or both - I got no incoming mail. My guess was that I
had offended promail in one way or another. So, as I prepare to do the MBOX to MAILDIR conversion once again,
does anyone have any guidance to offer for how to properly adjust
the procmail files so that I can continue to filter spam? Much appreciated. Cheers - dan How old is the distro on the system? Older versions of procmail don't support maildir.-- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't!!!!
on 9-17-2008 12:52 PM Dan Roberts spake the following:
Hi Scott -
How would I tell? I built the box from scratch and set up CentOS Linux 5 up on it - over one year, probably not more than three.
I had been running with a RedHat system prior to that - and I may well have copied the procmailrc settings from that -- don't actually recall. But Dovecot, Procmail and Spamassasin all came up fresh with the install of CentOS.
Everything should be new enough to work. I can't help you with the procmail recipe as I do all my spam and virus scanning with MailScanner. All done before the LDA.
Your setting of DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ should have worked unless either the Maildir directory in the users home was not there or not accessible due to permissions.
The link to the procmail page might nudge you in the right direction.
-- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't!!!!
on 9-17-2008 11:39 AM Dan Roberts spake the following:
I could use some help here -
As I use Dovecot I started here when trying to figure out why I could not add new mail folders under my Mac's Mail program, but could under Thunderbird.
It was quickly pointed out that my system was set up to use MBOX and not MAILDIR, and some helpful links and notes were sent back and forth giving me a good clue as to how to perform the conversion process.
I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox to maildir, but then ran aground.
I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I could not see any of my incoming mail.
What I was late in realizing was that I needed to also adjust the settings for my LDA, which as I am using sendmail is procmail, and it was suggested that I needed to adjust /etc/procmail to include the line
DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
I did that, but new mail still didn't show up correctly. I can only assume that I have something still not properly adjusted in my procmail settings.
Given that I got everything else to work, and even successfully upgraded dovecot, it was very frustrating to set everything back to square one with mbox so that I had a functioning system once again. I am about to have some time on my hands and am going to try again - but this time I thought I would ask for help before I possibly loose my ability to receive new mail - makes reading those suggestions very hard.
At present, my etc/procmailrc file is like this.
[dan@trailrunner etc]$ cat procmailrc # send mail through SpamAssassin :0 fw
- < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f
In each users Home directory I have a .procmailrc file that further directs things on a user level. For my directory this file is currently
[dan@trailrunner ~]$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
PROBABLYJUNK = /home/dan/mail/probably-spam
:O H probably-spam
- ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes { EXITCODE=67 :0:
}
I admit that I set up Spamassasin some years ago and though I have updated things now and then, I don't recall all of the reasoning behind the setup - just know that it has been working.
Whether I put the new line "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/" in one file, the other or both - I got no incoming mail. My guess was that I had offended promail in one way or another.
So, as I prepare to do the MBOX to MAILDIR conversion once again, does anyone have any guidance to offer for how to properly adjust the procmail files so that I can continue to filter spam?
Much appreciated.
Cheers - dan
Dan, I found this page with lots of procmail stuff.
http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/
Have a look!
-- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't!!!!
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Roberts wrote:
I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox to
maildir, but then ran aground.I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I
could not see any of my incoming mail.What I was late in realizing was that I needed to also adjust the
settings for my LDA, which as I am using sendmail is procmail, and it
was suggested that I needed to adjust /etc/procmail to include the lineDEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
I did that, but new mail still didn't show up correctly. I can only
assume that I have something still not properly adjusted in my
procmail settings. [...]
In each users Home directory I have a .procmailrc file that further
directs things on a user level. For my directory this file is currently[dan@trailrunner ~]$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
PROBABLYJUNK = /home/dan/mail/probably-spam ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ :O H probably-spam
- ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes { EXITCODE=67 :0:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^
This makes procmail deliver mail into mbox format files. You most likely want delivery action lines like this: .probably-spam/
Note the leading dot and the trailing slash. That makes procmail use Maildir format. You will have to adjust each and every delivery action. Please see 'man procmailrc'.
Moreover, your ${PROBABLYJUNK} variable doesn't match your ${DEFAULT}. You'd better not provide absolute, full paths there.
Given the above snippets, I guess procmail actually *did* deliver your mail. It's just been dumped in mbox format files, which dovecot with your changed settings doesn't recognize. And probably scattered in multiple directories...
guenther
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Dan Roberts wrote:
It was quickly pointed out that my system was set up to use MBOX and not MAILDIR, and some helpful links and notes were sent back and forth giving me a good clue as to how to perform the conversion process.
I did have success in getting my mail accounts converted from mbox to maildir, but then ran aground.
I could see all of my existing mail and create new folders, but I could not see any of my incoming mail.
http://markmail.org/message/4wghlnywxuljwmnh - you will want to start /etc/procmailrc with
DROPPRIVS=YES
My working /etc/procmailrc is as such:
paulproteus@rose:~ $ cat /etc/procmailrc DROPPRIVS=YES LOGFILE="${HOME}/procmail-log" MAILDIR="${HOME}/Maildir" DEFAULT="./" paulproteus@rose:~ $
I should be using Dovecot Deliver but haven't still gotten around to it.
-- Asheesh.
-- If wishes were horses, then beggars would be thieves.
participants (4)
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Asheesh Laroia
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Dan Roberts
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Karsten Bräckelmann
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Scott Silva