I have dovecot set up to run IMAP services without SSL (I have tested many other configurations as well, but this reproduces the problem the simplest). When attempting to connect to the imap server using Entourage for OS X on a mac, I receive the following error:
Mail could not be received at this time. The server returned the following error .
Dovecot reports a successful login and nothing else in the mail log. All other email clients I have tried (mutt, Mail.app) work fine with the IMAP server. I have also tried this on multiple clients with the same results. All this leads me to believe a bug exists in Entourage, however: I also have a Red Hat 7.3 server running qmail and dovecot in nearly the same manner (except that it is using dovecot 0.99.10 and shadow for password authentication, instead of dovecot 0.99.10.2 and ldap password authentication). Entourage (and all other clients) works just fine with this setup.
I'm not certain if the problem lies in some tweak between 0.99.10 and 0.99.10.2 or if it is something with the red hat system itself, but I can't find anything.
I am using dovecot 0.99.10.2 on a Red Hat 9 system using qmail 1.04 (netqmail) and checking with the latest version (update 10.1.5) of Entourage on Mac OS 10.2.8.
Thanks for any help! -Payton
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Am Dienstag, 18. November 2003 17:36 schrieb Payton:
I'm not certain if the problem lies in some tweak between 0.99.10 and 0.99.10.2 or if it is something with the red hat system itself, but I can't find anything.
Did you dump the network traffic between Entourage and the working and failing setup? This could probably help to track the problem.
Greetings,
Gunter
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Following that advice, I used tethereal to dump a test transaction of both setups. Comparing the IMAP chatter, there is basically no difference! In fact, on the setup which gave the error message, I don't see why it didn't just work - judging by the traffic. I have attached both logs, if that's of any help. Does anyone have any ideas? -Payton
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Gunter Ohrner wrote:
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2003 17:36 schrieb Payton:
I'm not certain if the problem lies in some tweak between 0.99.10 and 0.99.10.2 or if it is something with the red hat system itself, but I can't find anything.
Did you dump the network traffic between Entourage and the working and failing setup? This could probably help to track the problem.
Greetings,
Gunter
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Am Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 20:23 schrieb Payton:
Following that advice, I used tethereal to dump a test transaction of both setups. Comparing the IMAP chatter, there is basically no difference! In
The flags returned for INBOX differ:
"Response: * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft NotJunk Junk)"
Maybe entourage chokes on the last two ones? The "\" seems to be missing, which has already been mentioned as a bug on this list IIRC. However that#s just a wild and blind guess as I virtually know nothing about the IMAP protocol in paticular.
Greetings,
Gunter
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On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 00:17, Gunter Ohrner wrote:
The flags returned for INBOX differ:
"Response: * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft NotJunk Junk)"
Maybe entourage chokes on the last two ones? The "\" seems to be missing, which has already been mentioned as a bug on this list IIRC. However that#s just a wild and blind guess as I virtually know nothing about the IMAP protocol in paticular.
Flags beginning with \ are the flags defined by IMAP protocol. Others are custom flags created by clients. I'm not sure if that is the problem.. You could try creating a new mailbox and saving some mails there, not using Mail.app which creates those Junk/NotJunk flags.
I tried with a completely clean mailbox as well, and the error persists (and those flags are not present). I've attached a log of that clean test.
Has anyone successfully had an entourage email client work with imap on dovecot 0.99.10.2? -Payton
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote:
Flags beginning with \ are the flags defined by IMAP protocol. Others are custom flags created by clients. I'm not sure if that is the problem.. You could try creating a new mailbox and saving some mails there, not using Mail.app which creates those Junk/NotJunk flags.
I haven't tried Entourage, but an upgrade of dovecot to 0.99.10.2, and of sylpheed to 0.9.7, has resulted in very strange behavior for me: on access, however many items are in a mailbox (maildir), only one (or sometimes 2) is shown (sylpheed updates the numbe available). The rest aren't purged; they just aren't available. Other mail clients tested (mutt, mozilla-thunderbird) do not show the same behavior. But sylpheed is perfectly happy with two other dovecots (also over maildir; very similar setups in general) (both 0.99.10, both debian i386, one -10, one -9).
I am not able to isolate the problem either to the client or the server. For both, I deleted existing configuration information, and created it anew. For dovecot, I also deleted all the imap* files throughout the maildir tree. It's rather frustrating ....
Just point of information, since there seem to be interaction issues with particular clients, versus this version of dovecot.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 09:55:37AM -0500, Payton wrote:
I tried with a completely clean mailbox as well, and the error persists (and those flags are not present). I've attached a log of that clean test.
Has anyone successfully had an entourage email client work with imap on dovecot 0.99.10.2? -Payton
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote:
Flags beginning with \ are the flags defined by IMAP protocol. Others are custom flags created by clients. I'm not sure if that is the problem.. You could try creating a new mailbox and saving some mails there, not using Mail.app which creates those Junk/NotJunk flags.
Amy!
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On Monday 24 November 2003 08:06 am, Amelia A Lewis wrote:
I am not able to isolate the problem either to the client or the server. For both, I deleted existing configuration information, and created it anew. For dovecot, I also deleted all the imap* files throughout the maildir tree. It's rather frustrating .... I tried the same multiple times. Yes it is rather frustrating.
Just point of information, since there seem to be interaction issues with particular clients, versus this version of dovecot.
I'm having issues though with kmail 3.2 beta. Some of the issues are jsut the beta kmail but on top of it there are issues like you describe above. This same server accessed from an older version of kmail 3.1.3 does not have these issues.
I tried evolution also and it does not read any of the folders at all including the inbox. For me this is no issue as I dont use it and dont like gnome but for others I can see there may be issues.
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:06:05AM -0500, Amelia A Lewis wrote:
I haven't tried Entourage, but an upgrade of dovecot to 0.99.10.2, and of sylpheed to 0.9.7, has resulted in very strange behavior for me: on access, however many items are in a mailbox (maildir), only one (or sometimes 2) is shown (sylpheed updates the numbe available). The rest aren't purged; they just aren't available. Other mail clients tested (mutt, mozilla-thunderbird) do not show the same behavior. But sylpheed is perfectly happy with two other dovecots (also over maildir; very similar setups in general) (both 0.99.10, both debian i386, one -10, one -9).
Yep, same here. Sylpheed 0.9.7 and 0.9.6 works with dovecot 0.99.10, including the four patches, but not with 0.99.10.2. In another test with sylpheed-claws 0.9.6 everything works fine ...
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