Hello Gerhard,

thanks for the fast reply.

I've patched procmail (it's working great) and for now, I'm using this configuration:

/etc/procmailrc

DELIVER_INBOX=yes DELIVER_REPLACE_INBOX_NAME=yes DELIVER_NEW_INBOX_NAME=INBOX DELIVER_ABSOLUTE_PATH=yes DELIVER_PIPE_NO_LOCK=yes DELIVER_RAW_MODE=yes DELIVER_REMOVE_FROM=yes DELIVER_PROGRAM="/usr/bin/deliver -m \$BOXNAME -f \$ENVELOP_SENDER -d \$RECIPIENT"

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• ^From \/[^ ]* { ENVELOP_SENDER=$MATCH } ENVELOP_SENDER=${ENVELOP_SENDER:-MAILER-DAEMON@fh-trier.de}

.procmailrc

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• ^X\-RFT\-FORWARD: beckerr@fh\-trier\.de -> XXXX@YYY\.de { DELIVER_PROGRAM :0 /dev/null } :0 Ec | formail -I 'X-RFT-FORWARD: beckerr@fh-trier.de -> XXXX@YYY.de' -s /usr/lib/sendmail -i XXXX@YYY.de

As you see I have to unset DELIVER_PROGRAM to discard looping messages by sending them to /dev/null. This is a little bit unhandy, because other users have to alter their .procmailrc too.

What do you think about defining an environment variable like DELIVER_SKIP_PATH=/dev:/tmp to set a number of paths for which (dovecot-)deliver is skipped and instead procmail is used to save the mail.

Regards, Ralf

PS: Gruß aus Trier, der ältesten Stadt Deutschlands :-)

Gerhard Wiesinger schrieb am 07.01.2007 21:07:

Hello!

I'm the author of the procmail patch for dovecot's deliver program.

You can specify -f <envelope sender> with dovecot deliver when I remember correctly.

DELIVER_PROGRAM="/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -m \$BOXNAME -d \$RECIPIENT -f SOMETHING_ELSE -c /etc/dovecot.conf" (Can't remember whether there was a variable for the from user or not, when yes you can specify the from user, too. ) When you need any help feel free to contact me.

BTW: The First from line is only the mbox delimiter and really has no effect on the Mail headers. I also have MAILER-DAEMON in the From line without any problems at all. So this is IHMO only cosmetic.

@Timo: Running /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver (without any parameters waiting for stdin) and pressing Ctrl-C => Core dump with dovecot 1.0rc17.

Grüße aus Wien :-)

Ciao, Gerhard

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Hello Gerhard,

it is maybe a little bit haarsplitting that I'm insisting to find the original envelop sender in the "From " line (= FROM_ line). But in my opinion this is part of the mbox format definition.

[http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/mbox.html]

      The From_ line always looks like From envsender date
      moreinfo.  envsender is one word, without spaces or tabs; it
      is usually the envelope sender of the message. 

and

 HOW A MESSAGE IS DELIVERED
      Here is how a program appends a message to an mbox file.

      It first creates a From_ line given the message's envelope
      sender and the current date.  If the envelope sender is
      empty (i.e., if this is a bounce message), the program uses
      MAILER-DAEMON instead.  If the envelope sender contains
      spaces, tabs, or newlines, the program replaces them with
      hyphens.

Dovecot uses mboxcl2, which basically handles the "From " line like mboxo (=mbox?)

Indeed it's not a bug to ignore the envelop sender and use "From MAIL-DEAMON ..." when delivering. But in this case deliver should add Return-Path: <envelop-sender> if not already present

Think about bouncing a already delivered message:

This mail can be bounced From beckerr@fh-trier.de Thu Dec 1 05:12:01 2005 From: some-list some-list@list-home.org To: some-list some-list@list-home.org Subject: test

This message too From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Dec 1 05:12:01 2005 Return-Path: beckerr@fh-trier.de From: some-list some-list@list-home.org To: some-list some-list@list-home.org Subject: test

But this message can not be bounced, because the envelop sender is unknown: From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Dec 1 05:12:01 2005 From: some-list some-list@list-home.org To: some-list some-list@list-home.org Subject: test

ok... actually this messages could be bounced to, but would be bounced to the mailing list, which is a bad idea :-)

And something completely different:

I've implemented DELIVER_SKIP_PATH testing. I don't want to publish a patch for a patch. Do you want to put the new patch on your homepage or should I but it on mine?

This is what I've added:

[src/mailfold.c @216] int isinbox = 0; if (s_org_mail) isinbox = !strcmp(s_org_mail, boxname);

// rb - start if (trydeliver && program) { char *skip_path = getenv("DELIVER_SKIP_PATH"); if (skip_path) { char *i=skip_path; while (*i) { char *j, *k;

        for (j=i; *j && *j!=':'; j++)
            ;
        k=j;
        for (k=j; k>i && k[-1]=='/'; k--)
            ;

        if (i!=k && strncmp(boxname,i,k-i)==0 && (boxname[k-i]=='/'

|| !boxname[k-i])) { yell("skipping delivering through external program for ", boxname); program = NULL; break; } if (!*j) break; i=j+1; } } } // rb - end if (trydeliver && program && ((!isinbox && !isabsolute) || (isinbox && deliver_inbox) || (isabsolute && deliver_absolute_path)) ) {

Bye, Ralf

Gerhard Wiesinger schrieb am 09.01.2007 18:37:

Hello!

Yes, DELIVER_SKIP_PATH would be a good idea. But I really wanted to avoid to use procmail at all.

BTW: What is your problem with the first FROM line, I really didn't unterstand the problem there?

Ciao, Gerhard

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