Hello all, Does doveadm backup - backup the attachments as well when using SIS ?
Regards Durga Prasad +919849111010
-----Original Message----- From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Marc Stürmer Sent: 09 April 2018 18:05 To: Steve Atkins Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: {Spam?} Re: Filesystem level backups?
Am 2018-04-09 00:55, schrieb Steve Atkins:
Will a simple backup of all the files of an multi-dbox give me a consistent state when I recover, or do I need to do something (e.g. lock writes to the mailbox) while I run a backup?
If you are doing this backup with a fully operational mail storage: no, it won't. The reason is quite simple: mdbox saves the data of an email in several files, so there's a good chance that those files might slightly change during backup, while with Maildir all necessary data for the restore is stored in the file names.
If you want to do a consistent backup, you do need file system snapshots and should make sure that this snapshot is consistent or to turn off the mail store during backup completely.
But just doing rsync on the fly as with Maildir is just begging on your side to run into problems sooner or later...
-- Greetings,
Marc
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Le 4/9/2018 à 4:56 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet a écrit :
Hello all, Does doveadm backup - backup the attachments as well when using SIS ?
As far as I know, it does (it de-shares shared attachments)
I've used that solution to stop using SIS at one point (it created more problems than it solved - especially permission issues). I backup up all my mailboxes - then made them active - all attachments were back in the individual mailboxes.
--Ivan (Again sorry for the duplicate)
On 4/9/2018, 11:34:40 AM, Ivan Warren ivan@vmfacility.fr wrote:
Le 4/9/2018 à 4:56 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet a écrit :
Does doveadm backup backup the attachments as well when using SIS?
As far as I know, it does (it de-shares shared attachments)
I've used that solution to stop using SIS at one point (it created more problems than it solved - especially permission issues)
Hi Ivan,
Mind if I ask for details?
(and maybe Aki or Timo):
I was considering implementing SIS on a new server I'm planning (won't be for a few months now probably). I had decided against it a long time ago because it was new, and there were drawbacks (backups not being properly accounted for being one of the big ones). I was hoping it had matured a lot since then and the drawbacks at the time were mostly history. Maybe that is not the case?
If not, are there open bugs dealing with the issues, and plan for addressing them? Or is SIs just probably not ever going to be ready for prime time?
Hi all, I am deeply interested in this topic considering that SAN level snapshots are not possible. How do we effectively backup and restore SIS enable mdboxes?
Regards Durga Prasad +919849111010
-----Original Message----- From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Tanstaafl Sent: 09 April 2018 21:59 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: SIS and Filesystem level backups (was just Re: Filesystem level backups?)
On 4/9/2018, 11:34:40 AM, Ivan Warren ivan@vmfacility.fr wrote:
Le 4/9/2018 à 4:56 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet a écrit :
Does doveadm backup backup the attachments as well when using SIS?
As far as I know, it does (it de-shares shared attachments)
I've used that solution to stop using SIS at one point (it created more problems than it solved - especially permission issues)
Hi Ivan,
Mind if I ask for details?
(and maybe Aki or Timo):
I was considering implementing SIS on a new server I'm planning (won't be for a few months now probably). I had decided against it a long time ago because it was new, and there were drawbacks (backups not being properly accounted for being one of the big ones). I was hoping it had matured a lot since then and the drawbacks at the time were mostly history. Maybe that is not the case?
If not, are there open bugs dealing with the issues, and plan for addressing them? Or is SIs just probably not ever going to be ready for prime time?
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Bummer, apparently things haven't changed (for the better) with respct to backup sand SIS...
:(
On 4/9/2018, 12:28:31 PM, Tanstaafl tanstaafl@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 4/9/2018, 11:34:40 AM, Ivan Warren ivan@vmfacility.fr wrote:
Le 4/9/2018 à 4:56 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet a écrit :
Does doveadm backup backup the attachments as well when using SIS?
As far as I know, it does (it de-shares shared attachments)
I've used that solution to stop using SIS at one point (it created more problems than it solved - especially permission issues)
Hi Ivan,
Mind if I ask for details?
(and maybe Aki or Timo):
I was considering implementing SIS on a new server I'm planning (won't be for a few months now probably). I had decided against it a long time ago because it was new, and there were drawbacks (backups not being properly accounted for being one of the big ones). I was hoping it had matured a lot since then and the drawbacks at the time were mostly history. Maybe that is not the case?
If not, are there open bugs dealing with the issues, and plan for addressing them? Or is SIs just probably not ever going to be ready for prime time?
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