Hi albi,

and what is at line 648 ?

 passdb = passwd   -  Only I removed it so Dovecot will run.

> which dovecot-version are you using ?

 v 1.0

> did you increase debugging-possibilities in dovecot.conf ?

 Don't find "debugging-possibilities" anywhere in the config file

I only find "mail_debug" which is set to "no".

and is it pop3 or pop3s you're trying ?

 POP3...   Is POP3s SSL (secure) ???  and can my clients use it if they

only have PoP3 ?

BTW: If you CC the list as well as send your reply to my address, I get two copies. Just reply to the list....

                         Thanks,

On 10/24/06, Nick Admin@myhost.org wrote:

...

       I'm setting up Dovecot on a Linux (Ubuntu) server and IMap
works but P0P3 doesn't.  When I try to get the eMail, it appears
to do everything it should (no errors) but nothing gets downloaded.

I'm also a little confused with this:
If I select either "Password authentication source" Unix passwd or
shadow file (using WEBmin or text edit the config file) Dovecot
errors:  Unknown setting: line 648: and yet, if I take it out it
works fine.  How does Dovecot get the passwords if no source is
included ???

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Timo Sirainen wrote:

On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 15:54 -0400, Nick wrote:

...

BTW: If you CC the list as well as send your reply to my address, I get two copies. Just reply to the list....

Some people want to be Ccd (especially those who aren't joined to the list), and some don't, so I think Reply-to-all is the best default behavior when you don't know what the sender wants.

You can anyway change this by setting Reply-To header point to the list. Easiest way to do that is to go to:

http://dovecot.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dovecot

"Unsubscribe or edit options" -> "Set Reply-To header to list?" -> "Yes".

This isn't a standard mailman feature, but my own addition.

IMHO, this should be up to the recipient rather than the sender. I sure don't want my incoming list mail having it's return address munged, as it can cause me to accidentally send messages intended for one recipient to a public list.

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

At the same time, at least you've made it conditional (even if it is, IMHO, the wrong way!) So many lists I'm on just force it on everyone :(

-- Jasper Bryant-Greene Director Album Limited

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On October 25, 2006 11:02:54 AM +1300 Jasper Bryant-Greene jasper@albumltd.co.nz wrote:

Timo Sirainen wrote:

...

On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 15:54 -0400, Nick wrote:

...

BTW: If you CC the list as well as send your reply to my address, I get two copies. Just reply to the list....

Some people want to be Ccd (especially those who aren't joined to the list), and some don't, so I think Reply-to-all is the best default behavior when you don't know what the sender wants.

You can anyway change this by setting Reply-To header point to the list. Easiest way to do that is to go to:

http://dovecot.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dovecot

"Unsubscribe or edit options" -> "Set Reply-To header to list?" -> "Yes".

This isn't a standard mailman feature, but my own addition.

IMHO, this should be up to the recipient rather than the sender. I sure don't want my incoming list mail having it's return address munged, as it can cause me to accidentally send messages intended for one recipient to a public list.

I'd disagree with that. (I'm sure there are as many opinions as subscribers.) Why should I have to get 2 replies from "you" because you prefer not to have the return address munged? Rather, if you are worried about this problem, get an email client that handles this better (like Mulberry).

Anyway, about the double reply, the correct way to fix that of course is to use a msg-id cache. Or a single-store imap server like courier. :-)

-frank

On 25.10.2006, at 5.07, Marshal Newrock wrote:

...

"Unsubscribe or edit options" -> "Set Reply-To header to list?" -> "Yes".

This isn't a standard mailman feature, but my own addition.

There is a standard mailman option "Avoid duplicate copies of
messages" which, if set and you are cc'd on a message, Mailman will not send you a copy. This could be turned on by default (nodupes in the admin interface).

I don't like that option. It has two problems:

1. The message that gets through doesn't go through mailman, so it
   lacks the List-ID header and others. That breaks filtering to the
   list's mailbox.

2. If the sender wants to be evil, he could put people into Cc header
   without actually sending the mail to them. Those people never get the
   mail at all then. This could even happen accidentally if the sender's
   server isn't configured exactly correctly and the recipient's server
   does more strict checks than dovecot.org's. Or gets treated as spam.
   Or just delayed a couple of days. Or things like that.

Those are bad enough problems that I don't want to enable it for myself.

The right way to fix this would be to have a new header which tells
if you want to be Ccd in Reply-to-all replies (or Reply-to-list
replies) or not, and leave the normal private replying as it is.. But
since that requires changing the clients, it'll never happen. Wasn't
there some such feature already proposed by djb and implemented in mutt?

Anyway, changing Reply-to to the list is the only workable solution
that I can see. The few rare times when you actually want to reply
privately it should be easy enough to copy&paste the non-list address.

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 10:48, Timo Sirainen took the opportunity to say:

The right way to fix this would be to have a new header which tells if you want to be Ccd in Reply-to-all replies (or Reply-to-list replies) or not, and leave the normal private replying as it is.. But since that requires changing the clients, it'll never happen. Wasn't there some such feature already proposed by djb and implemented in mutt?

Mail-Followup-To and Mail-Reply-To for list and personal replies, respectively.

-- Magnus Holmgren holmgren@lysator.liu.se (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks)