BUG: cannot move messages to root mailfolder in namespace "There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes"
I can only move messages to a root namespace folder when specifying inbox=yes. That is strange because it is not even the inbox. I don't even get why it is not by default possible, maybe bug there?
You have made the mistake of overloading the use of a parameter inbox=yes (or not creating a parameter to tell folder can be used to move messages to), there is indeed only one folder that gets incoming messages delivered to, and that is the inbox=yes. You should have created a 2nd parameter specifying if a folder should be allowed to store mail.
(I have been running this dovecot server for 20 years or so, and I am really surprised about still running into issues on such basic things as trying to put folders onto different storage. Not to mention the lack of help you can get here. Is there some roadmap, features implementation overview available? Can you make public issues on github?)
On 30 December 2018 at 17:09 Marc Roos M.Roos@f1-outsourcing.eu wrote:
I can only move messages to a root namespace folder when specifying inbox=yes. That is strange because it is not even the inbox. I don't even get why it is not by default possible, maybe bug there?
This makes no sense. inbox=yes namespace means the namespace which has 'INBOX' folder as per RFC.
You have made the mistake of overloading the use of a parameter inbox=yes (or not creating a parameter to tell folder can be used to move messages to), there is indeed only one folder that gets incoming messages delivered to, and that is the inbox=yes. You should have created a 2nd parameter specifying if a folder should be allowed to store mail.
You can deny this with ACLs. Or with filesystem permissions.
(I have been running this dovecot server for 20 years or so, and I am really surprised about still running into issues on such basic things as trying to put folders onto different storage. Not to mention the lack of help you can get here. Is there some roadmap, features implementation overview available? Can you make public issues on github?)
I'm sorry you feel that you have not been served. Perhaps you can maybe appreciate that we provide our support for free of charge, so it is best effort basis, and might not always prioritize the things you find important.
We are not unfortunately going to be making issues public on Github, we have our own issue tracking system.
Aki
I can only move messages to a root namespace folder when specifying inbox=yes. That is strange because it is not even the inbox. I don't
even get why it is not by default possible, maybe bug there?
This makes no sense. inbox=yes namespace means the namespace which has 'INBOX' folder as per RFC.
With this configuration
namespace { disabled = no hidden = no ignore_on_failure = no inbox = yes list = yes location = mailbox Archive { auto = create autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox Archives { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } order = 0 prefix = separator = / subscriptions = yes type = private } namespace { disabled = no hidden = no ignore_on_failure = no inbox = no list = no location = mbox:/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/:CONTROL=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archiv e/control:INDEX=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/index:LAYOUT=maildir++ order = 0 prefix = Archive/ separator = / subscriptions = yes type = private }
I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and choose archive "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable"
If I add the inbox=yes, the dovecot logs are flooded with Error: namespace configuration error: There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes namespace configuration error: There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes in=0 out=398
You have made the mistake of overloading the use of a parameter inbox=yes (or not creating a parameter to tell folder can be used to
move messages to), there is indeed only one folder that gets incoming messages delivered to, and that is the inbox=yes. You should have created a 2nd parameter specifying if a folder should be allowed to store mail.
You can deny this with ACLs. Or with filesystem permissions.
(I have been running this dovecot server for 20 years or so, and I am really surprised about still running into issues on such basic things as trying to put folders onto different storage. Not to mention the lack of help you can get here. Is there some roadmap, features implementation overview available? Can you make public issues on github?)
I'm sorry you feel that you have not been served. Perhaps you can maybe appreciate that we provide our support for free of charge, so it is best effort basis, and might not always prioritize the things you find important.
We are not unfortunately going to be making issues public on Github, we have our own issue tracking system.
On 31 December 2018 at 15:47 Marc Roos M.Roos@f1-outsourcing.eu wrote:
I can only move messages to a root namespace folder when specifying inbox=yes. That is strange because it is not even the inbox. I don't
even get why it is not by default possible, maybe bug there?
This makes no sense. inbox=yes namespace means the namespace which has 'INBOX' folder as per RFC.
With this configuration
namespace { disabled = no hidden = no ignore_on_failure = no inbox = yes list = yes location = mailbox Archive { auto = create autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox Archives { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } order = 0 prefix = separator = / subscriptions = yes type = private } namespace { disabled = no hidden = no ignore_on_failure = no inbox = no list = no location = mbox:/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/:CONTROL=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archiv e/control:INDEX=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/index:LAYOUT=maildir++ order = 0 prefix = Archive/ separator = / subscriptions = yes type = private }
I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and choose archive "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable"
Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called 'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more like a config error.
Aki
If I add the inbox=yes, the dovecot logs are flooded with Error: namespace configuration error: There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes namespace configuration error: There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes in=0 out=398
You have made the mistake of overloading the use of a parameter inbox=yes (or not creating a parameter to tell folder can be used to
move messages to), there is indeed only one folder that gets incoming messages delivered to, and that is the inbox=yes. You should have created a 2nd parameter specifying if a folder should be allowed to store mail.
You can deny this with ACLs. Or with filesystem permissions.
(I have been running this dovecot server for 20 years or so, and I am really surprised about still running into issues on such basic things as trying to put folders onto different storage. Not to mention the lack of help you can get here. Is there some roadmap, features implementation overview available? Can you make public issues on github?)
I'm sorry you feel that you have not been served. Perhaps you can maybe appreciate that we provide our support for free of charge, so it is best effort basis, and might not always prioritize the things you find important.
We are not unfortunately going to be making issues public on Github, we have our own issue tracking system.
I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and
archive "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable"
Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called 'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more
choose like a
config error.
That is been done on the advice I got here. Since November I am trying to get resolved, that I need my Archive and subfolders on different storage location as the default. Furthermore Archive folder is being used by apple mail, Archives folder eg. by Thunderbird. So it would be nice to 'group' this, so Thunderbird is not accidentally storing this on the default storage.
If the aliases plugin was working properly, I could have done this maybe via aliases https://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg75587.html
Where is a manual describing how to do this? Archive tree on different storage?
├── Archive/Archives/Archived Messages/Archived mail <- need to store messages in root folder also │ ├── 2017 │ │ ├── projects │ │ │ ├── project │ │ │ ├── project1 │ │ │ ├── project2 │ │ │ ├── project3 │ │ │ ├── project4 │ │ │ └── project5 │ │ └── Sent Messages │ ├── 2018 │ │ ├── project1 │ │ ├── project2 │ │ ├── project3 │ │ ├── project4 │ │ ├── project5 │ │ └── Sent │ └── 2019 │ ├── projectA │ └── projectB ├── Deleted ├── Inbox ├── Junk ├── Sent └── Tasks
I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and
archive "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable"
Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called 'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more
choose like a
config error.
That is been done on the advice I got here. Since November I am trying to get resolved, that I need my Archive and subfolders on different storage location as the default. Furthermore Archive folder is being used by apple mail, Archives folder eg. by Thunderbird. So it would be nice to 'group' this, so Thunderbird is not accidentally storing this on the default storage.
If the aliases plugin was working properly, I could have done this maybe
via aliases https://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg75587.html
Hi, this setting might work. The default namespace "inbox" is managing INBOX and defines Special-Use folders on the same hierarchic level as INBOX. There is an extra namespace "4archives" which defines Archive as a mailbox on the same level as INBOX but stored on a different location. Set mailbox attribute auto to your liking.
namespace inbox { type = private disabled = no hid den = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = yes location = prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = / mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts auto = subscribe } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk auto = subscribe } mailbox Spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox Deleted { special_use = \Trash auto = subscribe } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Wastebasket { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent auto = subscribe } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Sent Mail" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Tasks" { # This mailbox has no official RFC 6154 or RFC 8457 Special-Use entry auto = subscribe }} namespace 4archives { type = private disabled = no hidden = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = no location = mbox:/home/mail- archive/%u/Archive/:CONTROL=/home/mail- archive/%u/Archive/control:INDEX=/home/mail- archive/%u/Archive/index:LAYOUT=maildir++ prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = / mailbox Archive { auto = create autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox Archives { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived Messages" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived mail" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } }
On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 12:06 +0100, Marc Roos wrote:
Where is a manual describing how to do this? Archive tree on different storage?
├── Archive/Archives/Archived Messages/Archived mail <- need to store messages in root folder also │ ├── 2017 │ │ ├── projects │ │ │ ├── project │ │ │ ├── project1 │ │ │ ├── project2 │ │ │ ├── project3 │ │ │ ├── project4 │ │ │ └── project5 │ │ └── Sent Messages │ ├── 2018 │ │ ├── project1 │ │ ├── project2 │ │ ├── project3 │ │ ├── project4 │ │ ├── project5 │ │ └── Sent │ └── 2019 │ ├── projectA │ └── projectB ├── Deleted ├── Inbox ├── Junk ├── Sent └── Tasks
> >> >> I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and choose >> archive >> "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" >> with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable" >> > >Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called >'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more like a >config error. > >
That is been done on the advice I got here. Since November I am trying to get resolved, that I need my Archive and subfolders on different storage location as the default. Furthermore Archive folder is being used by apple mail, Archives folder eg. by Thunderbird. So it would be nice to 'group' this, so Thunderbird is not accidentally storing this on the default storage.
If the aliases plugin was working properly, I could have done this maybe
via aliases https://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg75587.html
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the reply. I got the error below, but when I changed the prefix in 4archives to Archive/ I am getting indeed something that is looking ok, I still have to test with a few clients. Why did you call the namespace 4archives? Because it would load before inbox? Or does this not matter at all.
Error: namespace configuration error: Duplicate namespace prefix: ""
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Johannes Dauser [mailto:mdauser@cs.sbg.ac.at] Sent: 09 January 2019 12:02 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: BUG: cannot move messages to root mailfolder in namespace "There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes"
Hi,
this setting might work. The default namespace "inbox" is managing INBOX and defines Special-Use folders on the same hierarchic level as INBOX. There is an extra namespace "4archives" which defines Archive as a mailbox on the same level as INBOX but stored on a different location. Set mailbox attribute auto to your liking.
namespace inbox { type = private disabled = no hidden = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = yes location = prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = /
mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts auto = subscribe } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk auto = subscribe } mailbox Spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox Deleted { special_use = \Trash auto = subscribe } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Wastebasket { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent auto = subscribe } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Sent Mail" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Tasks" { # This mailbox has no official RFC 6154 or RFC 8457 Special-Use entry auto = subscribe } }
namespace 4archives { type = private disabled = no hidden = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = no location = mbox:/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/:CONTROL=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archiv e/control:INDEX=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/index:LAYOUT=maildir++ prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = / mailbox Archive { auto = create autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox Archives { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived Messages" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived mail" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } }
On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 12:06 +0100, Marc Roos wrote:
Where is a manual describing how to do this? Archive tree on different storage?
├── Archive/Archives/Archived Messages/Archived mail <- need to store messages in root folder also │ ├── 2017 │ │ ├── projects │ │ │ ├── project │ │ │ ├── project1 │ │ │ ├── project2 │ │ │ ├── project3 │ │ │ ├── project4 │ │ │ └── project5 │ │ └── Sent Messages │ ├── 2018 │ │ ├── project1 │ │ ├── project2 │ │ ├── project3 │ │ ├── project4 │ │ ├── project5 │ │ └── Sent │ └── 2019 │ ├── projectA │ └── projectB ├── Deleted ├── Inbox ├── Junk ├── Sent └── Tasks
>
>>
>> I get this error message from apple mail when I right click and
choose
>> archive
>> "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" >> with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable" >> > >Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called >'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more like a >config error. > >
That is been done on the advice I got here.
Since November I am trying to get resolved, that I need my Archive and subfolders on different storage location as the default. Furthermore Archive folder is being used by apple mail, Archives folder eg. by Thunderbird. So it would be nice to 'group' this, so Thunderbird is not accidentally storing this on the default storage.
If the aliases plugin was working properly, I could have done this maybe
via aliases
https://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg75587.htmlHi,
"The section name in namespaces (e.g. namespace sectionname { .. } is used only internally within configuration. It's not required at all, but it allows you to update an existing namespace (like how 15-mailboxes.conf does) or have userdb override namespace settings for specific users (namespace/sectionname/prefix=foo/)." (from https://wiki.dovecot.org/Namespaces)
You can call the namespace as you wish or leave it out, but it's a nice hint telling it's purpose and if you activate debug level it's easier to see which namespace does what.
There is no alphabetical order taken in account.
Regarding duplicate prefix: I didn't thought of that. Using prefix Archive/ should lead to a mailbox /Archive/Archive I guess. I'm not sure if namespace attribute "list = no" could do something about it.
Another way round would be to set the prefix of inbox as Inbox/ instead but this would force users to create folders only as subfolders of /INBOX/ or of /Archive/.
I'm glad I could be of some help. Martin
On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 15:22 +0100, Marc Roos wrote:
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the reply. I got the error below, but when I changed the prefix in 4archives to Archive/ I am getting indeed something that is looking ok, I still have to test with a few clients. Why did you call the namespace 4archives? Because it would load before inbox? Or does this not matter at all.
Error: namespace configuration error: Duplicate namespace prefix: ""
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Johannes Dauser [mailto:mdauser@cs.sbg.ac.at] Sent: 09 January 2019 12:02 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: BUG: cannot move messages to root mailfolder in namespace "There can be only one namespace with inbox=yes"
Hi,
this setting might work. The default namespace "inbox" is managing INBOX and defines Special-Use folders on the same hierarchic level as INBOX. There is an extra namespace "4archives" which defines Archive as a mailbox on the same level as INBOX but stored on a different location. Set mailbox attribute auto to your liking.
namespace inbox { type = private disabled = no hidden = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = yes location = prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = /
mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts auto = subscribe } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk auto = subscribe } mailbox Spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox spam { special_use = \Junk auto = no } mailbox Deleted { special_use = \Trash auto = subscribe } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Wastebasket { special_use = \Trash auto = no } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent auto = subscribe } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Sent Mail" { special_use = \Sent auto = no } mailbox "Tasks" { # This mailbox has no official RFC 6154 or RFC 8457 Special-Use entry auto = subscribe } }
namespace 4archives { type = private disabled = no hidden = no list = yes ignore_on_failure = no inbox = no location = mbox:/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/:CONTROL=/home/mail- archive/%u/Archiv e/control:INDEX=/home/mail-archive/%u/Archive/index:LAYOUT=maildir++ prefix = subscriptions = yes separator = / mailbox Archive { auto = create autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox Archives { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived Messages" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } mailbox "Archived mail" { auto = no autoexpunge = 0 autoexpunge_max_mails = 0 comment = driver = special_use = \Archive } }
On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 12:06 +0100, Marc Roos wrote:
Where is a manual describing how to do this? Archive tree on different storage?
├── Archive/Archives/Archived Messages/Archived mail <- need to store messages in root folder also │ ├── 2017 │ │ ├── projects │ │ │ ├── project │ │ │ ├── project1 │ │ │ ├── project2 │ │ │ ├── project3 │ │ │ ├── project4 │ │ │ └── project5 │ │ └── Sent Messages │ ├── 2018 │ │ ├── project1 │ │ ├── project2 │ │ ├── project3 │ │ ├── project4 │ │ ├── project5 │ │ └── Sent │ └── 2019 │ ├── projectA │ └── projectB ├── Deleted ├── Inbox ├── Junk ├── Sent └── Tasks
I get this error message from apple mail when I right click
and
archive "The IMAP command "UID COPY" (to Archive) failed for the mailbox "INBOX" with server error: Mailbox isn't selectable"
Did you notice that you have a mailbox called 'Archive' and namespace called 'Archive'? Namespace roots are not selectable, and this looks more
choose like a
config error.
That is been done on the advice I got here. Since November I am trying to get resolved, that I need my Archive and subfolders on different storage location as the default. Furthermore Archive folder is being used by apple mail, Archives folder eg. by Thunderbird. So it would be nice to 'group' this, so Thunderbird is not accidentally storing this on the default storage.
If the aliases plugin was working properly, I could have done this maybe
via aliases https://www.mail-archive.com/dovecot@dovecot.org/msg75587.html
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Aki Tuomi
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Marc Roos
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Martin Johannes Dauser