Hearing that today's new Apple device is going to work with push IMAP from Yahoo, my first thought is to wonder whether an extension might make it possible for a Dovecot server to push its own IMAP in a compatible way.
Paulits called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
hopefully apple is using IDLE, and not their own hack.
On 2007 Jan 09 (Tue) at 13:39:29 -0500 (-0500), Paul wrote: :Hearing that today's new Apple device is going to work with push IMAP :from Yahoo, my first thought is to wonder whether an extension might :make it possible for a Dovecot server to push its own IMAP in a :compatible way. : : Paul :
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On 9.1.2007, at 20.54, Peter Hessler wrote:
its called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
hopefully apple is using IDLE, and not their own hack.
I'm guessing it's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP
Although since it's still a draft, who knows what Yahoo has
implemented so far.. Anyway, I haven't read the draft yet, but I
don't think there would be any major problems implementing it :)
On January 9, 2007, at 10:54am, Peter Hessler wrote:
its called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
Push IMAP exists as a quasi-standard, and it's not the same as IDLE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP
"push IMAP has not been generally accepted and current IETF work is addressing the problem in other ways."
PaulOn Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:54 AM -0800 Peter Hessler phessler@theapt.org wrote:
its called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
hopefully apple is using IDLE, and not their own hack.
IIRC, IDLE doesn't monitor unsubscribed folders. I have about 100 folders that could potentially receive new mail (via procmail filtering) and it would be unwieldy to subscribe them all.
Is there some mechanism in the push protocol to inform the client of delivery to an arbitrary folder, to eliminate the need to poll the whole hierarchy?
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 10:39, Kenneth Porter wrote:
On Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:54 AM -0800 Peter Hessler
phessler@theapt.org wrote:
its called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
hopefully apple is using IDLE, and not their own hack.
IIRC, IDLE doesn't monitor unsubscribed folders. I have about 100 folders that could potentially receive new mail (via procmail filtering) and it would be unwieldy to subscribe them all.
Why would it be unwieldy to subscribe them all? I have a similar setup, and have subscribed to all of them, and configure my most-used clients to not poll the ones I don't care about.
Regards,
- Brian
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 08:39 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
On Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:54 AM -0800 Peter Hessler phessler@theapt.org wrote:
its called IDLE, and it already works in dovecot. used it on a treo last year.
hopefully apple is using IDLE, and not their own hack.
IIRC, IDLE doesn't monitor unsubscribed folders. I have about 100 folders that could potentially receive new mail (via procmail filtering) and it would be unwieldy to subscribe them all.
Subscriptions and IDLE have nothing to do with each others. IDLE can monitor only the selected mailbox (ie. one mailbox per connection).
I haven't read anything about Push IMAP yet, so can't say how it works there.
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