[Dovecot] Mac mail copy/delete problems w/1.0b2
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
Anybody else seen this?
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Dr. Linus PaulingOn Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:25:14PM -0800, Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
Mailbox or Maildir? Can you give any idea/examples of how large the boxes are, and how large the deleted/copied bunches of messages are? ("Large" both as in bytes and as in number of messages).
HAND
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:00:56 +0100, Lorens dovecot.fdop@tagged.lorens.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 12:25:14PM -0800, Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
Mailbox or Maildir? Can you give any idea/examples of how large the boxes are, and how large the deleted/copied bunches of messages are? ("Large" both as in bytes and as in number of messages).
Ooops, sorry:
mbox, large number of messages = 2MB of mail in a folder, 875 messages.
HAND
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Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
This sounds vaguely familiar... I don't know if it still applies on 1.0 (yes, I'm still running 0.99.14) but ISTR "maildir_copy_with_hardlinks = yes" did good things for me.
Obviously, this only applies if you're using Maildir.
-- Curtis Maloney cmaloney@cardgate.net
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 12:25 -0800, Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
What Dovecot version?
You could check what Dovecot is doing by stracing the imap process.
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:58:13 +0200, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 12:25 -0800, Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
What Dovecot version?
1.0b2
You could check what Dovecot is doing by stracing the imap process.
I will try that ASAP, and send the results.
-- Anthony Kay University Computing Center (541) 346-1719 GPG Fingerprint: B0DB D46A 60AF FAE7 A94A 5075 0CB4 4D88 9F4F 7F09
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Chuck Jones
I have verified that this is a bug in Mac mail. I did a network dump of the interaction, and it hangs in the middle of a FETCH response (doesn't read the rest of the requested data). I also verified that it does it with other IMAP daemons, so it is certainly NOT a dovecot issue.
Thanks!
Tony
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:51:45 -0800, "Tony Kay" tkay@uoregon.edu wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:58:13 +0200, Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi wrote:
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 12:25 -0800, Tony Kay wrote:
Hi,
Mac mail (a horribly mis-behaved client, it seems), has a horribly hard time deleting/copying large blocks of messages from one folder to another. The basic symptom is:
- Select a bunch of messages
- Click on delete
- Wait for a _very_ long time.
It also seems very slow on copying, so it may be the "trash folder copy on delete" that is really slowing it down.
What Dovecot version?
1.0b2
You could check what Dovecot is doing by stracing the imap process.
I will try that ASAP, and send the results.
-- Anthony Kay University Computing Center (541) 346-1719 GPG Fingerprint: B0DB D46A 60AF FAE7 A94A 5075 0CB4 4D88 9F4F 7F09
If you start with character, you probably will end up with good drawings.
Chuck Jones
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participants (4)
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Curtis Maloney
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Lorens
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Timo Sirainen
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Tony Kay