Installation Question: Is a web server required ?
Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web server ?
I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and not by a web UI.
Thanks.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:28:41 +0000 "White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]" daniel.e.white@nasa.gov wrote:
Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web server ?
I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and not by a web UI.
Thanks.
Most definitely - web server is only required if you wanted things like webmail access - or any type of management interface.
Excellent. The documentation is not clear about this. We want the email users to use POP/IMAP clients.
Many thanks.
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun Johnson shaun@linuxmagic.com Organization: LinuxMagic Inc. Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 13:33 To: Daniel White daniel.e.white@nasa.gov Cc: "dovecot@dovecot.org" dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:28:41 +0000
"White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]" <daniel.e.white@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web
> server ?
>
> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s)
> and not by a web UI.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
Most definitely - web server is only required if you wanted things like
webmail access - or any type of management interface.
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] daniel.e.white@nasa.gov (Mi 28 Apr 2021 19:37:42 CEST):
Excellent. The documentation is not clear about this. We want the email users to use POP/IMAP clients.
Not sure which documentation you refer to. I think, neither Postfix nor Dovecot mention a web UI as an essential part, if they mention it at all.
(I'm talking about the "core" documentation, not about Wikis, HowTows, Blogs, …)
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White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] daniel.e.white@nasa.gov (Mi 28 Apr 2021 19:28:41 CEST):
Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web server ? Yes.
I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and not by a web UI. Dovecot is a pure POP3/IMAP server. No Web-UI is required/provided.
(I think, there are other "modules" planned or working already, like calendar or such. But maybe I'm confusing this with alternative mail access server software.)
-- Heiko
On 2021-04-28 19:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] wrote:
Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web server ?
I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and not by a web UI.
can a car fly without gasoline ? :=)
none of the above software require x11
not even roundcube
On 28 Apr 2021, at 11:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] daniel.e.white@nasa.gov wrote:
only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s
There is no reason to support POP3 on a new mail service. IMAP is suppserior in every way, both for the user and for the server.
(There is nothing that POP3 can do that IMAP cannot duplicate, and many many MANY things that IMAPO can do that POP3 cannot).
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On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:41:17 PM AKDT @lbutlr wrote:
On 28 Apr 2021, at 11:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] daniel.e.white@nasa.gov wrote:
only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s
There is no reason to support POP3 on a new mail service. IMAP is suppserior in every way, both for the user and for the server.
(There is nothing that POP3 can do that IMAP cannot duplicate, and many many MANY things that IMAPO can do that POP3 cannot).
The astronaut guy says the POP3/IMAP setup should "just work," and as pissed off as I am at U.S. government bureaucracy and maybe I confuse NASA with another government agency NSA and government spooks demanding back door access to read my email over my shoulder, I happen to agree with the general sentiment.
POP3 is the better and more efficient protocol for clients who simply want to download email messages to their desktop once and for all so they don't need to keep accessing the server over and over again to read the same old messages.
IMAP is better for clients with multiple devices etc.
Professionals of any line of work who use email at work on the job and especially people on this list know that already.
On 29 Apr 2021, at 01:23, justina colmena ~biz justina@colmena.biz wrote:
POP3 is the better and more efficient protocol for clients who simply want to download email messages to their desktop once and for all so they don't need to keep accessing the server over and over again to read the same old messages.
Trivial to duplicate that behavior with IMAP with a simple rule to move messages to a local folder.
Again, there is nothing POP3 does that IMAP does not.
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