Just happened to be surfing the docs and saw this. This is beyond awesome:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/Lua
Any words of wisdom on using it? I'd be putting a bunch of mysql logic in it. Any horrible gotchas there? When it says 'blocking', should I assume that means that a auth worker process will *not* accept any new auth lookups until both auth_passdb_lookup() and auth_userdb_lookup() have completed (in which I'd be doing several mysql calls)? If that's the case, I assume that the number of auth workers should be bumped up.
And is a 2.3 release fairly imminent?
On November 29, 2017 at 4:37 AM Mark Moseley <moseleymark@gmail.com> wrote:
Just happened to be surfing the docs and saw this. This is beyond awesome:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/Lua
Any words of wisdom on using it? I'd be putting a bunch of mysql logic in it. Any horrible gotchas there? When it says 'blocking', should I assume that means that a auth worker process will *not* accept any new auth lookups until both auth_passdb_lookup() and auth_userdb_lookup() have completed (in which I'd be doing several mysql calls)? If that's the case, I assume that the number of auth workers should be bumped up.
And is a 2.3 release fairly imminent?
Hi!
This feature was added very recently, and there is very little operational experience on it. As the docs should say, blocking=yes means that an auth worker is used, and yes, it will block each auth worker during authentication, but what we tried, it should perform rather nicely.
The most important gotcha is to always test your lua code rigorously, because there is not much we can do to save you.
It should be present in master branch, so if someone feels like trying it out, please let us know if you find any bugs or strangeness. It's not present in nightlies yet.
We are planning on releasing 2.3.0 this year.
Aki
Op 29-11-2017 om 6:17 schreef Aki Tuomi:
On November 29, 2017 at 4:37 AM Mark Moseley <moseleymark@gmail.com> wrote:
Just happened to be surfing the docs and saw this. This is beyond awesome:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/Lua
Any words of wisdom on using it? I'd be putting a bunch of mysql logic in it. Any horrible gotchas there? When it says 'blocking', should I assume that means that a auth worker process will *not* accept any new auth lookups until both auth_passdb_lookup() and auth_userdb_lookup() have completed (in which I'd be doing several mysql calls)? If that's the case, I assume that the number of auth workers should be bumped up.
And is a 2.3 release fairly imminent? Hi!
This feature was added very recently, and there is very little operational experience on it. As the docs should say, blocking=yes means that an auth worker is used, and yes, it will block each auth worker during authentication, but what we tried, it should perform rather nicely.
The most important gotcha is to always test your lua code rigorously, because there is not much we can do to save you.
It should be present in master branch, so if someone feels like trying it out, please let us know if you find any bugs or strangeness. It's not present in nightlies yet.
We are planning on releasing 2.3.0 this year.
The Xi package builder has this feature enabled since yesterday. It is available in the dovecot-lua package; the first Xi package that doesn't have an official Debian equivalent (yet anyway).
Regards,
Stephan.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Stephan Bosch <s.bosch@ox.io> wrote:
Op 29-11-2017 om 6:17 schreef Aki Tuomi:
On November 29, 2017 at 4:37 AM Mark Moseley <moseleymark@gmail.com>
wrote:
Just happened to be surfing the docs and saw this. This is beyond awesome:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/Lua
Any words of wisdom on using it? I'd be putting a bunch of mysql logic in it. Any horrible gotchas there? When it says 'blocking', should I assume that means that a auth worker process will *not* accept any new auth lookups until both auth_passdb_lookup() and auth_userdb_lookup() have completed (in which I'd be doing several mysql calls)? If that's the case, I assume that the number of auth workers should be bumped up.
And is a 2.3 release fairly imminent?
Hi!
This feature was added very recently, and there is very little operational experience on it. As the docs should say, blocking=yes means that an auth worker is used, and yes, it will block each auth worker during authentication, but what we tried, it should perform rather nicely.
The most important gotcha is to always test your lua code rigorously, because there is not much we can do to save you.
It should be present in master branch, so if someone feels like trying it out, please let us know if you find any bugs or strangeness. It's not present in nightlies yet.
We are planning on releasing 2.3.0 this year.
The Xi package builder has this feature enabled since yesterday. It is available in the dovecot-lua package; the first Xi package that doesn't have an official Debian equivalent (yet anyway).
I've been playing with Lua auth and so far no issues. I was previously putting together a very ugly MySQL stored procedure. Using Lua would be a lot easier (esp when it comes to returning an arbitrary number of columns).
I'd love to see any test Lua code that the dovecot team has been playing around with (and realize it's not remotely production-ready, so don't worry about caveats
I did have a couple of questions though:
- Is the data returned by Lua auth not cacheable? I've got the following settings (and I'm just using Lua in the userdb lookup, not passdb -- passdb is doing a lightweight SQL lookup for username/password):
auth_cache_negative_ttl = 1 mins auth_cache_size = 10 M auth_cache_ttl = 10 mins
but I notice that every time I auth, it'll redo all the queries in my Lua code. I'd have expected that data to be served out of cache till the 10min TTL is up
- Is there an appropriate way to return data with spaces in it (or presumably other non-alphanum chars. My quota name had a space in it, which somehow got interpreted as 'yes' , i.e.:
imap: Error: Failed to initialize quota: Invalid quota root quota: Unknown quota backend: yes
I simply changed the space to an underscore as a workaround, but I'm curious if there's a better way. I tried various quoting without success. Didn't try escaping yet.
- Can you elaborate on the "auth_request#response_from_template(template)" and "auth_request#var_expand(template)" functions? Specifically how to use them. I'm guessing that I could've used one of them to work around #2 (that it would have done the escaping for me)
Thanks!
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Aki Tuomi
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Mark Moseley
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Stephan Bosch