Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part, it is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
On 10/12/17 20:05, André Rodier wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
Kudos, it's a good project. Thanks for sharing it.
I thought it might be useful to offer a counterpoint: I thought about automating server setup, but decided against it because I do it seldom enough (for my personal serveres) that I should expect bitrot and software evolution to make what I automate not quite work the way I expect on next setup. Instead, I wrote up extensive notes about how I set up my servers with a few scripts to help me compare config files. It's a work in progress, like all such things.
https://github.com/JeffAbrahamson/hosts/tree/master/p27The real point, I suppose, is that if I have to set up a new version of my server, say because I'm upgrading OS significantly, I'd like to force myself to look at what I'm doing rather than have the false confidence that comes from having perfectly scripted it some years back but not having thought through texting in light of whatever changes have happened to software since.
Reasonable people may dispute these points. It's also significant that I don't like to spend the time on devops necessary to debug these sorts of things, so there's a lot of personal taste in it.
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Check out https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign/blob/master/README.md
Might have some of what you are looking for already done.
Bruce
On Dec 10, 2017 2:06 PM, André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part, it is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Thank you,
I remember to had a look at this project, and I found it huge.
I started mine because I want LDAP authentication.
I also wanted less features / programs, less obtrusive, and better attention to small details, like automatic DKIM generation and DNS updates.
I hope not to end up with something as huge.
André
On 10/12/17 19:19, bruce@secryption.com wrote:
Check out https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign/blob/master/README.md
Might have some of what you are looking for already done.
Bruce
On Dec 10, 2017 2:06 PM, André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part, it is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
Hello Bruce et al,
One thing I did not specify. I have very strict idea in the way I am installing a package on a server I put online.
Ideally, I want to have some install process I setup once and I don't have to worry about anything, especially security.
When I have to install a software, let's say Roundcube, I prefer to use the native version that comes with Debian server. Of course, it is a little bit outdated, but I know there is a security team behind that publishes security patches. I know these security patches will be applied, while I sleep or while I am in holidays, if I install and configure correctly unattended upgrades packages.
If really I want more control, I know there is packages on Debian that will send me an email when updates are available, and I can install them from anywhere using SSH.
In no case, I would be comfortable installing, on a Live server, Roundcube from the git repository, which is done fir this project. It is far too easy to forget and leave it for months with security issues opened for a while.
Yes, I know there is cron scripts I can use to update the repository. But even in this case, who is guarantee me that nothing will break on my server? Once again, there is a Debian team that do a fabulous integration work, and I don't want to break my mail server just to have the latest version of Roundcube or Owncloud.
By staying inside the Debian ecosystem, I am also sure that some third party applications or repositories will stay nicely integrated with the current state of my server. For instance, I know that I should be able to add syncthing (https://apt.syncthing.net/) repository as part of the deployment process, without worrying too much about conflict from files overwritten by these kind of manipulations.
I don't say one opinion is better that the other, it is just the way I prefer to work - and as a matter - to live.
Kind regards, André
On 10/12/17 19:46, André Rodier wrote:
Thank you,
I remember to had a look at this project, and I found it huge.
I started mine because I want LDAP authentication.
I also wanted less features / programs, less obtrusive, and better attention to small details, like automatic DKIM generation and DNS updates.
I hope not to end up with something as huge.
André
On 10/12/17 19:19, bruce@secryption.com wrote:
Check out https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign/blob/master/README.md
Might have some of what you are looking for already done.
Bruce
On Dec 10, 2017 2:06 PM, André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using Postfix and Dovecot for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically.
I obviously checked the other projects, and did not found anything close to what I am looking for, so I am implementing it now.
The final goal is to have a box that once online, would setup itself, by creating the certificates, the DKIM keys and update the appropriate DNS records.
This is so far what I have achieved:
- Automatic generation of certificates using LetsEncrypt
- Automatic update of the domain entries: imap, smtp, webmail, etc.
- Automatic generation of a DKIM keys
- Automatic update of specific records (MX, SPF, DKIM, etc.)
- LDAP server for user accounts, with or without system login.
- Installation of Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Sending DKIM signed emails is working, and the IMAP server is configured as well, although basic.
The postfix and dovecot configuration are not yet entirely finished. I am planing to add an anti spam system, and sieve, amongst other things.
Although in development during my spare time, the system is normally robust and you should be able to run it multiple times without errors.
If anyone is interested to use it, to have a look, or to take part, it is here: https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox
Kind regards, André Rodier.
--On Sunday, December 10, 2017 7:05 PM +0000 André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
This is so far what I have achieved:
How about MIMEDefang, ClamAV, and SpamAssassin? I'm currently running MD+Clam from sendmail and SA from procmail, but I'm open to seeing the equivalent solution with Postfix and the Dovecot LDA.
(One thing that keeps me from switching to Postfix is the need to accept "plussed" addresses using both the plus sign and the dot (for websites that refuse "+" in an email address).)
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:23:34AM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
--On Sunday, December 10, 2017 7:05 PM +0000 André Rodier andre@rodier.me wrote:
This is so far what I have achieved:
How about MIMEDefang, ClamAV, and SpamAssassin? I'm currently running MD+Clam from sendmail and SA from procmail, but I'm open to seeing the equivalent solution with Postfix and the Dovecot LDA.
(One thing that keeps me from switching to Postfix is the need to accept "plussed" addresses using both the plus sign and the dot (for websites that refuse "+" in an email address).)
That's relatively easy. I use the following:
In main.cf: recipient_delimiter = + canonical_maps = pcre:/etc/postfix/canonical
In /etc/postfix/canonical: /^([^\.]+)\.([^\.]+)@(darac\.org\.uk)$/ ${1}+${2}@${3}
The regex can probably be simplified a lot, but to me that's clear that foo.bar@darac.org.uk gets mapped to foo+bar@darac.org.uk.
That means that I can use plus addressing where it's supported and dot addressing where it isn't. From the server's point of view, it's all plus-addressed, but I've not yet come across a domain that doesn't like (SMTP) mail with a + in the from field (it's usually just the web forms that complain).
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--On Monday, December 11, 2017 1:06 PM +0000 Darac Marjal mailinglist@darac.org.uk wrote:
That's relatively easy. I use the following:
Thanks! My recipe for sendmail is here (section Sendmail workaround, near the end of the page), copied from a post on the sendmail newsgroup.
http://mozilla.wikia.com/wiki/User:Me_at_work/plushaters
Every time I look into Postfix it looks so much simpler, and your example, even with the complicated regex, confirms that.
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Darac Marjal
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Jeff Abrahamson
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Kenneth Porter