Dear all, Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
I have a few client who has blackberries, iphones and tabs.
Please let me know. Sent via Mobile
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:53:29PM +0530, Janantha Marasinghe wrote:
Dear all, Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
Dovecot supports IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177).
I have a few client who has blackberries, iphones and tabs.
Blackberries are using their own proprietary form of push service in conjunction a Blackberry Enterprise Server. None the less they are able to use IMAP IDLE like iPhones and other smartphones or tablet PCs.
Dennis
Hi,
Dennis Guhl schrieb am 05.05.2011 12:58 Uhr:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:53:29PM +0530, Janantha Marasinghe wrote:
Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
Dovecot supports IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177).
I have a few client who has blackberries, iphones and tabs.
Blackberries are using their own proprietary form of push service in conjunction a Blackberry Enterprise Server. None the less they are able to use IMAP IDLE like iPhones and other smartphones or tablet PCs. There ist Z-Push, which I haven't tested, yet. http://z-push.sourceforge.net/soswp/ There is even a session called "Connecting mobile Devices with Z-Push and Zarafa/Dovecot" at the "Mailserver-Konferenz", Berlin 26th of May. :) http://www.heinlein-support.de/mailserver-konferenz/2011/vortrag/mobile-gera...
Marc
Am 06.05.2011 13:11, schrieb Marc Patermann:
Hi,
Dennis Guhl schrieb am 05.05.2011 12:58 Uhr:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:53:29PM +0530, Janantha Marasinghe wrote:
Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
Dovecot supports IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177).
I have a few client who has blackberries, iphones and tabs.
Blackberries are using their own proprietary form of push service in conjunction a Blackberry Enterprise Server. None the less they are able to use IMAP IDLE like iPhones and other smartphones or tablet PCs. There ist Z-Push, which I haven't tested, yet. http://z-push.sourceforge.net/soswp/ There is even a session called "Connecting mobile Devices with Z-Push and Zarafa/Dovecot" at the "Mailserver-Konferenz", Berlin 26th of May. :) http://www.heinlein-support.de/mailserver-konferenz/2011/vortrag/mobile-gera...
Marc
imap push means something like imap lemonade
http://www.lemonadeformobiles.com/
which is in the roadmap for dovecot , but not urgent unless there not so many clients using it meanwhile z-push is a good alternative, normally install with apache webserver php on the dovecot server
on android use k9 mail as best imap solution ( no need for z-push etc ) dont know about good alternative imap clients vor iphone or blackberry
-- Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer
Germany/Munich/Bavaria
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:57:23PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
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On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:53:29PM +0530, Janantha Marasinghe wrote:
Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
[..]
imap push means something like imap lemonade
No, the LEMONADE profile (RFC 4550) is a set of extensions for IMAP. The focus is on saving bandwith and CPU while working with email on mobile devices and similar limited items. For this it describes how to handle email without the need to completely download it for replying or forwarding. There is nothing about push mail. Howerver IDLE is mentioned as an additionally extension which must be supportet.
If you take a look on the website, you will see the push functionality is only a reference to IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177.
[..]
on android use k9 mail as best imap solution ( no need for z-push etc ) dont know about good alternative imap clients vor iphone or blackberry
I don't know about iPhones IMAP client but the default IMAP client for Blackberries is very good -- even better then K9, which I use on my Android.
Dennis
Am 06.05.2011 17:02, schrieb Dennis Guhl:
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:57:23PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
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On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:53:29PM +0530, Janantha Marasinghe wrote:
Im running dovecot v2 and want to know if it supports IMAP push capabilities.
[..]
imap push means something like imap lemonade
No, the LEMONADE profile (RFC 4550) is a set of extensions for IMAP. The focus is on saving bandwith and CPU while working with email on mobile devices and similar limited items. For this it describes how to handle email without the need to completely download it for replying or forwarding. There is nothing about push mail. Howerver IDLE is mentioned as an additionally extension which must be supportet.
If you take a look on the website, you will see the push functionality is only a reference to IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177.
[..]
on android use k9 mail as best imap solution ( no need for z-push etc ) dont know about good alternative imap clients vor iphone or blackberry
I don't know about iPhones IMAP client but the default IMAP client for Blackberries is very good -- even better then K9, which I use on my Android.
Dennis
notice i wrote "like" not "it is"
http://www.lemonadeformobiles.com/quick.html
--snip 'Push' Email (via IMAP-IDLE)
When there is ongoing activity between the client and the server, IMAP will automatically inform the client of the presence of new messages.
The IMAP IDLE command, which is a widely implemented standard extension to the core IMAP protocol and contained within the LEMONADE Profile, ensures that the server will inform the client of new messages even when there is no other activity taking place between client and server.
IDLE maintains the connection by issuing a 'NOOP' command, usually every 15 minutes, to ensure that the connection isn't disrupted by a timeout. The main types of timeouts that usually occur are:
IMAP server timeout: Typically occurs after 30 minutes with no activity.
Underlying TCP connection timeout: Usually after a few hours.
NAT Gateway timeout: Most mobile devices access the Internet througha device operated by the mobile service provider called a NAT (Network Address Translation) gateway. These will typically time out an idle connection after 15 minutes.
NOOP (No Operation) performs no action other than having the server send an 'OK' reply and exchanges a bandwidth efficient few bytes of data.
--snip-end
Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer
Germany/Munich/Bavaria
This is going far off topic, let's take it off list.
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 08:55:34AM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
Am 06.05.2011 17:02, schrieb Dennis Guhl:
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:57:23PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
[..]
imap push means something like imap lemonade
No, the LEMONADE profile (RFC 4550) is a set of extensions for IMAP. The focus is on saving bandwith and CPU while working with email on mobile devices and similar limited items. For this it describes how to handle email without the need to completely download it for replying or forwarding. There is nothing about push mail. Howerver IDLE is mentioned as an additionally extension which must be supportet.
If you take a look on the website, you will see the push functionality is only a reference to IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177.
[..]
notice i wrote "like" not "it is"
I know what you wrote and it still is not correct.
This sounds like my abstract of the LEMONADE profile, just more verbose.
[abstract_(peroration)_of_RFC2177]
This is the reference to IMAP IDLE I talked about earlier.
Dennis
Am 07.05.2011 09:47, schrieb Dennis Guhl:
This is going far off topic, let's take it off list.
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 08:55:34AM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
Am 06.05.2011 17:02, schrieb Dennis Guhl:
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:57:23PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
[..]
imap push means something like imap lemonade
No, the LEMONADE profile (RFC 4550) is a set of extensions for IMAP. The focus is on saving bandwith and CPU while working with email on mobile devices and similar limited items. For this it describes how to handle email without the need to completely download it for replying or forwarding. There is nothing about push mail. Howerver IDLE is mentioned as an additionally extension which must be supportet.
If you take a look on the website, you will see the push functionality is only a reference to IMAP IDLE as in RFC 2177.
[..]
notice i wrote "like" not "it is"
I know what you wrote and it still is not correct.
This sounds like my abstract of the LEMONADE profile, just more verbose.
[abstract_(peroration)_of_RFC2177]
This is the reference to IMAP IDLE I talked about earlier.
Dennis
anyway the result should look like push mail to the client , and that might will be the interest thing for the user , no need to flame
-- Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer
Germany/Munich/Bavaria
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Dennis Guhl
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Janantha Marasinghe
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Marc Patermann
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Robert Schetterer