Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~
Hi,
I have been using this setup for years:
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~
I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be different. I plan to use this:
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~/mail
I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients. I don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.
Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail? Which files? (In other words: which files are "home directory" files and which files are "mail files"?)
Thank you,
Chris
Example home directory:
drwx------ . drwxr-xr-x .. drwx------ .Archives drwx------ .Archives.2016 drwx------ .Archives.2017 drwx------ .Drafts drwx------ .Junk drwx------ .Notes drwx------ .Sent drwx------ .Sent drwx------ .Trash drwx------ .work drwx------ .home drwx------ .todo lrwx------ .dovecot.sieve -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log.0 -rw------- .dovecot.svbin drwx------ cur -rw------- dovecot-keywords -rw------- dovecot-uidlist -rw------- dovecot-uidvalidity -r--r--r-- dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048 -rw------- dovecot.index -rw------- dovecot.index.cache -rw------- dovecot.index.log -rw------- dovecot.mailbox.log drwx------ new drwx------ sieve -rw------- subscriptions drwx------ tmp
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554) # OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64 lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes mail_gid = 1002 mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~ mail_privileged_group = vpostfix mail_uid = 1002 managesieve_notify_capability = mailto managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext namespace inbox { inbox = yes location = mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash } prefix = } passdb { args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users driver = passwd-file } plugin { recipient_delimiter = - sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve } protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve recipient_delimiter = - service auth { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth { group = postfix mode = 0666 user = postfix } unix_listener auth-userdb { group = postfix mode = 0600 user = postfix } } service lmtp { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp { group = postfix mode = 0666 user = postfix } } service managesieve-login { inet_listener sieve { port = 4190 } } ssl_cert = xxx ssl_key = xxx userdb { args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users driver = passwd-file } protocol lmtp { mail_plugins = " sieve" postmaster_address = xxx } protocol lda { mail_plugins = " sieve" }
I can't provide specific details as I'm on the road, but I successfully used mmv utility to accomplish something similar - changed mail home from domain/local@domain to just domain/local for about 65 users, took less than a second once I worked out the command (it supports wildcards) . The tricky part was changing the sql backend (was using postfixadmin) after the mmv - I ended up just dumping the sql db, editing the file, then pausing postfix/dovecot, performing the mmv, then restoring the db, and restarted postfix/dovecot, was down for maybe 20 seconds or less...
On March 4, 2017 7:41:53 PM EST, Chris Stankevitz chris@stankevitz.com wrote:
Hi,
I have been using this setup for years:
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~
I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be different. I plan to use this:
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~/mail
I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients. I don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.
Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail?
Which files? (In other words: which files are "home directory" files and which files are "mail files"?)
Thank you,
Chris
Example home directory:
drwx------ . drwxr-xr-x .. drwx------ .Archives drwx------ .Archives.2016 drwx------ .Archives.2017 drwx------ .Drafts drwx------ .Junk drwx------ .Notes drwx------ .Sent drwx------ .Sent drwx------ .Trash drwx------ .work drwx------ .home drwx------ .todo lrwx------ .dovecot.sieve -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log.0 -rw------- .dovecot.svbin drwx------ cur -rw------- dovecot-keywords -rw------- dovecot-uidlist -rw------- dovecot-uidvalidity -r--r--r-- dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048 -rw------- dovecot.index -rw------- dovecot.index.cache -rw------- dovecot.index.log -rw------- dovecot.mailbox.log drwx------ new drwx------ sieve -rw------- subscriptions drwx------ tmp
$ dovecot -n # 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554) # OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64 lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes mail_gid = 1002 mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~ mail_privileged_group = vpostfix mail_uid = 1002 managesieve_notify_capability = mailto managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext namespace inbox { inbox = yes location = mailbox Drafts { special_use = \Drafts } mailbox Junk { special_use = \Junk } mailbox Sent { special_use = \Sent } mailbox "Sent Messages" { special_use = \Sent } mailbox Trash { special_use = \Trash } prefix = } passdb { args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users driver = passwd-file } plugin { recipient_delimiter = - sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve } protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve recipient_delimiter = - service auth { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth { group = postfix mode = 0666 user = postfix } unix_listener auth-userdb { group = postfix mode = 0600 user = postfix } } service lmtp { unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp { group = postfix mode = 0666 user = postfix } } service managesieve-login { inet_listener sieve { port = 4190 } } ssl_cert = xxx ssl_key = xxx userdb { args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users driver = passwd-file } protocol lmtp { mail_plugins = " sieve" postmaster_address = xxx } protocol lda { mail_plugins = " sieve" }
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Hi Chris,
I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be
different. I plan to use this:
I'm interested about any sources for this ?
I find dovecot to be very flexible, so much that you can actual have the home dir inside the maildir instead of the traditional other way around, which is actually my setup !
In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/auth-sql.conf.ext
userdb { driver = static args = uid=vmail gid=vmail home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot }
In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf mail_location = Maildir:~/../
So in my case, the maildir is /var/vmail/%d/%n/ and the home dir is inside the maildir in a directory I named dovecot (home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot). This is because I migrated from courier which had the maildir directly in /var/vmail/%d/%n/, but since sieve scripts are also put there they are presented as maildir folders (which they're not of course), and this confused my users. So I used this little trick to hide the sieve scripts inside the dovecot directory and still have them working correctly.
-- Yassine.
Am 06.03.2017 um 09:06 schrieb chaouche yacine:
Hi Chris,
I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be
different. I plan to use this:
I'm interested about any sources for this ?
http://wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home
"Home directory shouldn't be the same as mail directory with mbox or Maildir formats (but with dbox/obox it's fine). It's possible to do that, but you might run into trouble with it sooner or later."
-- Alex JOST
Thanks Alex. I myself ran into these problems as described above and having distinct Maildir and Homedir helped it. The main reason being dovecot not making any distinction between a folder and maildir folder, which seems to have a very simple solution though.
-- Yassine.
It's even listed as a possible setup in dovecot's wiki, see : http://genius.it/wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home (annotated version).
-- Yassine.
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n mail_location = maildir:~/mail
the default for maildir-type would be ~/Maildir :-) that enables auto-detection as well.
Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail? Which files? (In other words: which files are "home directory" files and which files are "mail files"?)
drwx------ . drwxr-xr-x .. drwx------ .Archives
any dir with dot at the beginning except . and ..
drwx------ cur drwx------ new drwx------ tmp
these dirs hold the messages of the INBOX
-rw------- dovecot-keywords -rw------- dovecot-uidlist -rw------- dovecot-uidvalidity -r--r--r-- dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048 -rw------- dovecot.index -rw------- dovecot.index.cache -rw------- dovecot.index.log -rw------- dovecot.mailbox.log -rw------- subscriptions
make it: dovecot.index* dovecot-uid* You do not seem to use mailbox sharing or ACLs, those features would add some other entries.
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These not! They belong to Sieve in home:
lrwx------ .dovecot.sieve -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log -rw------- .dovecot.sieve.log.0 -rw------- .dovecot.svbin drwx------ sieve
Keep any directory without leading dot (except cur, new,& tmp) in home as well.
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participants (5)
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Alex JOST
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chaouche yacine
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Charles Marcus
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Chris Stankevitz
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Steffen Kaiser