[Dovecot] I need help with my mail client: was [OCLUG] running cron on UTC
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:29:20 -0800 Kevin Cernekee <cernekee@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Nathan Haines <nhaines@ubuntu.com>
I'm sorry to hijack a thread to do this, but I actually had to reply to someone in order to show you the symptom.
Before describing the symptom, let me give you the situation... I'm running Claws-Mail 3.8.1 on Xubuntu 12.10. On the way out I just do normal port 465 SSL to my web host's SMTP server. On the way back, fetchmail grabs my messages from my ISP using IMAP (and erasing them on on the ISP's server after retrieval), then delivers them to procmail, which, based on filters, drops them into the correct directories of the Dovecot server running on my desktop. Claws-mail then views all my email on the IMAP server.
slitt@mydesk:~$ dovecot -n # 2.1.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 3.5.0-25-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 12.10 ext4
At the bottom of this email I'll put a copy of a typical full header on a post from me.
Here's the symptom: Every time I reply to an OCLUG post, Claws-Mail loads the *To* with oclug@mailman.oclug.org and the *CC* with oclug@penguin.oclug.org. Unless I remember to delete the CC, this makes me double post every time, and must be quite annoying to you all. This happens *only* on OCLUG posts: None of my other mailing lists display this symptom.
It's actually weirder than that, because although when I compose the message the preceding is true, by the time I get the two messages back they both say oclug@penguin.oclug.org.
This happens only with the OCLUG list, no others. I studied the full headers of the two messages when they came back to me, and could discern no difference in the two. What I did find, however, is that all OCLUG messages have:
List-Post: <mailto:oclug@mailman.oclug.org> Reply-To: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug@penguin.oclug.org> List-Id: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug.mailman.oclug.org>
Can anyone tell me how to start narrowing down the cause of this behavior?
I've CC'ed the Claws-Mail list and the Dovecot list in hopes that maybe they have some ideas. The fact that the rest of you don't post doubles makes me wonder if it's a mail client thing (but of course, only for OCLUG).
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Steve Litt wrote:
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 02:57:10 -0500 From: Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> Reply-To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot@dovecot.org> To: oclug@penguin.oclug.org Cc: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug@penguin.oclug.org>, dovecot@dovecot.org, users@lists.claws-mail.org
I'm sorry to hijack a thread to do this, but I actually had to reply to someone in order to show you the symptom.
It's no Dovecot problem, unless the LDA/LMTP process mangles the headers, which probably is no Dovecot problem as well :-)
List-Post: <mailto:oclug@mailman.oclug.org> Reply-To: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug@penguin.oclug.org> List-Id: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug.mailman.oclug.org>
Can anyone tell me how to start narrowing down the cause of this behavior?
I've CC'ed the Claws-Mail list and the Dovecot list in hopes that maybe
====================================================== Return-path: <oclug-bounces@penguin.oclug.org> From: Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> To: oclug@penguin.oclug.org Cc: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug@penguin.oclug.org> Reply-To: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug@penguin.oclug.org> List-Id: Orange County Linux Users Group <oclug.mailman.oclug.org> List-Post: <mailto:oclug@mailman.oclug.org>
Please check your ClawsMail setup if:
a) it adds List-Post to the recipient list, b) you have configured any reply action, that adds another recipient to the message, e.g. overriding "To" with "oclug@mailman.oclug.org".
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