You know, I was thinking: wouldn't it be nice to have RFC 4468 (Message Submission BURL Extension) support in dovecot? Maybe we should ask the guys from Apple to contribute some support for it, I have a gut feeling they would gladly do so ;)
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-- Erik.
Erik Logtenberg put forth on 4/9/2010 9:12 AM:
You know, I was thinking: wouldn't it be nice to have RFC 4468 (Message Submission BURL Extension) support in dovecot? Maybe we should ask the guys from Apple to contribute some support for it, I have a gut feeling they would gladly do so ;)
There's an active BURL thread on the postfix-users list right now and it seems Wietse and Victor are open to looking at the idea. Timo have you had any chats with Wietse and/or Victor about BURL, Postfix, and Dovecot as of yet? I'm just assuming for some reason that you've interacted with Wietse in the past on one level or another. My apologies if this is not the case.
Anyway, seems the time may be right to engage this feature and coordinate with some MTA devs to get it working correctly.
Does anyone know if Firefox has support for BURL submission yet, or does it even need it? I've not looked at the actual message paths defined by this extension yet. My assumption is that with this extension, the MUA submits the message to the IMAP server and then the IMAP server forwards it to the MTA. Or do I have it backwards?
-- Stan
On 2010-04-09 11:14 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
There's an active BURL thread on the postfix-users list right now and it seems Wietse and Victor are open to looking at the idea. Timo have you had any chats with Wietse and/or Victor about BURL, Postfix, and Dovecot as of yet? I'm just assuming for some reason that you've interacted with Wietse in the past on one level or another. My apologies if this is not the case.
Anyway, seems the time may be right to engage this feature and coordinate with some MTA devs to get it working correctly.
This sounds suspiciously similar to the thread where I asked about some kind of support for 'Saving to Sent folder' automatically, so the message wouldn't have to be sent over the wire twice:
http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2010-March/047272.html
There have been a number of threads on the postfix list about this, and the last one actually resulted in a reasonable sounding workaround:
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2010-03/0070.html
Does anyone know if Firefox has support for BURL submission yet, or does it even need it?
Why would it? If Firefox is being used then your talking about a webmail client, so the message is never downloaded to the local client anyway.
I've not looked at the actual message paths defined by this extension yet. My assumption is that with this extension, the MUA submits the message to the IMAP server and then the IMAP server forwards it to the MTA. Or do I have it backwards?
That's what it sounded like to me - which is why I said it sounds exactly like what I had discussed in the thread referenced above - calling it a dovecot LSA (Local Submission Agent)...
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Best regards,
Charles
the MUA submits the message to the IMAP server and then the IMAP server forwards it to the MTA.
The MUA submits the message to the IMAP server. Then the MUA tells the submission server to fetch the message from the IMAP server. The IMAP server does not push the message out to the MTA.
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Charles Marcus
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Erik Logtenberg
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Mike Abbott
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Stan Hoeppner