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Joe Acquisto

19 Jan 2024 19 Jan '24

1:30 a.m.

Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Larry Rosenman

19 Jan 19 Jan

1:33 a.m.

Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...

Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

 Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
 current),
 but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve)
 produces "unable to connect to server".

 Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet
 to
 4190 produces "connection refused".

 A "one box" solution.

 If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
 things
 are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do that .
 . .


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Joe Acquisto

1:57 a.m.

Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

joe a

On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.
  Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
  current),
  but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve)
  produces "unable to connect to server".

  Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet
  to
  4190 produces "connection refused".

  A "one box" solution.

  If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
  things
  are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do that .
  . .


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Larry Rosenman

2:11 a.m.

You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...

Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

joe a

...
Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto
wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.
  Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
  current),
  but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".
  Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet
  to
  4190 produces "connection refused".

  A "one box" solution.

  If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
  things
  are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do
On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote: that .

...
  . .


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You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

 joe a

 On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 > Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
 > notably the below top of that file.
 > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
 > ##
 > ## ManageSieve specific settings
 > ##
 >
 > # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
 > protocols = $protocols sieve
 >
 > # Service definitions
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
 lists@j4computers.com>
 > wrote:
 >       Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port
 4190. No
 >       go.
 >
 >       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having
 nothing
 >       current),
 >       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
 managesieve)
 >       produces "unable to connect to server".
 >
 >       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything.
 Telnet
 >       to
 >       4190 produces "connection refused".
 >
 >       A "one box" solution.
 >
 >       If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.   
 Otherwise,
 >       things
 >       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to
 do that .
 >       . .
 >
 >
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 > Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c)     E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com
 > US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106
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Joe Acquisto

2:46 a.m.

They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port.

Surely there should be errors logged somewhere?

On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below.  Service was restarted.

joe a

On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
> notably the below top of that file.
> ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
> ##
> ## ManageSieve specific settings
> ##
>
> # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
> protocols = $protocols sieve
>
> # Service definitions
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto
<joea-lists@j4computers.com>
> wrote:
>       Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port
4190. No
>       go.
>
>       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
>       current),
>       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
managesieve)
>       produces "unable to connect to server".
>
>       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to
anything. Telnet
>       to
>       4190 produces "connection refused".
>
>       A "one box" solution.
>
>       If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.   
Otherwise,
>       things
>       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never
to do that .
>       . .
>
>
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> Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c)     E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com
> US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106
>
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They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port. Surely there should be errors logged somewhere? On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote: You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

 joe a

 On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 > Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
 > notably the below top of that file.
 > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
 > ##
 > ## ManageSieve specific settings
 > ##
 >
 > # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
 > protocols = $protocols sieve
 >
 > # Service definitions
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
 lists@j4computers.com>
 > wrote:
 >       Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port
 4190. No
 >       go.
 >
 >       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having
 nothing
 >       current),
 >       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
 managesieve)
 >       produces "unable to connect to server".
 >
 >       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything.
 Telnet
 >       to
 >       4190 produces "connection refused".
 >
 >       A "one box" solution.
 >
 >       If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.   
 Otherwise,
 >       things
 >       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to
 do that .
 >       . .
 >
 >
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 > Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c)     E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com
 > US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106
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Larry Rosenman

3:29 a.m.

I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works with RoundCube, if you want.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:46 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...

They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port.

Surely there should be errors logged somewhere? On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:

You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...
Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

joe a

...
Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto < joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.
  Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
  current),
  but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".
  Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything.
Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".
  A "one box" solution.

  If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
  things
  are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do
On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote: that .

...
  . .


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-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106

I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works with RoundCube, if you want.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:46 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port. Surely there should be errors logged somewhere? On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote: You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90- sieve.conf as well

      On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
      lists@j4computers.com> wrote:
           Yes.  It is uncommented as shown there below. 
           Service was restarted.

           joe a

           On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
           > Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
           > notably the below top of that file.
           > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
           > ##
           > ## ManageSieve specific settings
           > ##
           >
           > # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
           > protocols = $protocols sieve
           >
           > # Service definitions
           >
           >
           > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto
           <joea-lists@j4computers.com>
           > wrote:
           >       Trying to connect to managesieve server
           configured to port 4190. No
           >       go.
           >
           >       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird
           apparently having nothing
           >       current),
           >       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-
           configured for managesieve)
           >       produces "unable to connect to server".
           >
           >       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be
           "bound" to anything. Telnet
           >       to
           >       4190 produces "connection refused".
           >
           >       A "one box" solution.
           >
           >       If I had to guess, I would guess,
           operator error.    Otherwise,
           >       things
           >       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie
           that said never to do that .
           >       . .
           >
           >
           >     
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           www.lerctr.org/~ler
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           larryrtx@gmail.com
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           2106
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Joe Acquisto

4:21 a.m.

Sure. Thanks. I can post mine here, I suppose in a bit

joe a.

On 1/18/24 20:29, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works with RoundCube, if you want.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:46 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items
commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if
those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port.

Surely there should be errors logged somewhere?

On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and
90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto
<joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote:

    Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below.  Service was
    restarted.

    joe a

    On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
    > Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
    > notably the below top of that file.
    > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
    > ##
    > ## ManageSieve specific settings
    > ##
    >
    > # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
    > protocols = $protocols sieve
    >
    > # Service definitions
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto
    <joea-lists@j4computers.com>
    > wrote:
    >       Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to
    port 4190. No
    >       go.
    >
    >       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently
    having nothing
    >       current),
    >       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured
    for managesieve)
    >       produces "unable to connect to server".
    >
    >       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to
    anything. Telnet
    >       to
    >       4190 produces "connection refused".
    >
    >       A "one box" solution.
    >
    >       If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.   
    Otherwise,
    >       things
    >       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said
    never to do that .
    >       . .
    >
    >
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    >
    >
    > --
    > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
    > Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c)     E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com
    > US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106
    >
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US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106

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Sure. Thanks. I can post mine here, I suppose in a bit

joe a. On 1/18/24 20:29, Larry Rosenman wrote: I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works with RoundCube, if you want.

      On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
      lists@j4computers.com> wrote:
           Yes.  It is uncommented as shown there below. 
           Service was restarted.

           joe a

           On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:
           > Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf?
           > notably the below top of that file.
           > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
           > ##
           > ## ManageSieve specific settings
           > ##
           >
           > # Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol:
           > protocols = $protocols sieve
           >
           > # Service definitions
           >
           >
           > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto
           <joea-lists@j4computers.com>
           > wrote:
           >       Trying to connect to managesieve server
           configured to port 4190. No
           >       go.
           >
           >       Roundcube is configured (thunderbird
           apparently having nothing
           >       current),
           >       but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-
           configured for managesieve)
           >       produces "unable to connect to server".
           >
           >       Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be
           "bound" to anything. Telnet
           >       to
           >       4190 produces "connection refused".
           >
           >       A "one box" solution.
           >
           >       If I had to guess, I would guess,
           operator error.    Otherwise,
           >       things
           >       are looking up.  But, I remember a movie
           that said never to do that .
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4:24 a.m.

Here it is.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 8:21 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...

Sure. Thanks. I can post mine here, I suppose in a bit

joe a. On 1/18/24 20:29, Larry Rosenman wrote:

I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works with RoundCube, if you want.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:46 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...
They look fine to me, questions remails if many of the items commented out in the default config need to be enabled and if those might prevent the managesieve server from "grabbing" the port.

Surely there should be errors logged somewhere? On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:

You may wish to double-check that file (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...
Yes. It is uncommented as shown there below. Service was restarted.

joe a

...
Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto < joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.
  Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
  current),
  but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for
managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".
  Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything.
Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".
  A "one box" solution.

  If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
  things
  are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do
On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote: that .

...
  . .


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Here it is.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 8:21 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Sure. Thanks. I can post mine here, I suppose in a bit

 joe a.
 On 1/18/24 20:29, Larry Rosenman wrote:
      I could send your a dovecot -n of my setup, which works
      with RoundCube, if you want.

      On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:46 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
      lists@j4computers.com> wrote:
           They look fine to me, questions remails if many
           of the items commented out in the default config
           need to be enabled and if those might prevent the
           managesieve server from "grabbing" the port.   
           Surely there should be errors logged somewhere?
           On 1/18/24 19:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:
                You may wish to double-check that file
                (all of it) and 90-sieve.conf as well

                On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joe
                Acquisto <joea-lists@j4computers.com>
                wrote:
                     Yes.  It is uncommented as
                     shown there below.  Service
                     was restarted.

                     joe a

                     On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry
                     Rosenman wrote:
                     > Did you look at conf.d/20-
                     managesieve.conf?
                     > notably the below top of
                     that file.
                     > ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf
                     > ##
                     > ## ManageSieve specific
                     settings
                     > ##
                     >
                     > # Uncomment to enable
                     managesieve protocol:
                     > protocols = $protocols
                     sieve
                     >
                     > # Service definitions
                     >
                     >
                     > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:
                     30 PM Joe Acquisto <joea-
                     lists@j4computers.com>
                     > wrote:
                     >       Trying to connect to
                     managesieve server configured
                     to port 4190. No
                     >       go.
                     >
                     >       Roundcube is
                     configured (thunderbird
                     apparently having nothing
                     >       current),
                     >       but selecting "Add
                     Filter" (new since re-
                     configured for managesieve)
                     >       produces "unable to
                     connect to server".
                     >
                     >       Port 4190 does not
                     seem to answer or be "bound"
                     to anything. Telnet
                     >       to
                     >       4190 produces
                     "connection refused".
                     >
                     >       A "one box" solution.
                     >
                     >       If I had to guess, I
                     would guess, operator
                     error.    Otherwise,
                     >       things
                     >       are looking up.  But,
                     I remember a movie that said
                     never to do that .
                     >       . .
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                     >
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Joe Acquisto

2:05 a.m.

Most of the items below that, number of connections, process limit, etc, are commented out. I presumed there would be defaults used if not specified. Is that correct, or must I un-comment them. No examples showed such un commenting.

joe a

On 1/18/24 18:33, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

Did you look at conf.d/20-managesieve.conf? notably the below top of that file. ❯ more 20-managesieve.conf ## ## ManageSieve specific settings ##

# Uncomment to enable managesieve protocol: protocols = $protocols sieve

# Service definitions

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.
  Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing
  current),
  but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve)
  produces "unable to connect to server".

  Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet
  to
  4190 produces "connection refused".

  A "one box" solution.

  If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise,
  things
  are looking up.  But, I remember a movie that said never to do that .
  . .


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Joe Acquisto

4:43 p.m.

The problem of managesieve server/service not taking hold of port 4190 remains. Perhaps the service is not being loaded/running at all? Pardon any terminology faux pas

On 1/18/24 18:30, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...

Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Aki Tuomi

5:04 p.m.

Did you notice that your server is listening only on specific IPv4 address? Did you try to connect against that?

Aki

...

On 19/01/2024 16:43 EET Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

The problem of managesieve server/service not taking hold of port 4190 remains. Perhaps the service is not being loaded/running at all? Pardon any terminology faux pas

On 1/18/24 18:30, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...
Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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joe a

6:16 p.m.

Yes, to the specific IP "connection refused", locally or remotely.

joe a.

On 1/19/2024 10:04:16, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:

...

Did you notice that your server is listening only on specific IPv4 address? Did you try to connect against that?

Aki

...
On 19/01/2024 16:43 EET Joe Acquisto joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

The problem of managesieve server/service not taking hold of port 4190 remains. Perhaps the service is not being loaded/running at all? Pardon any terminology faux pas

On 1/18/24 18:30, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...
Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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joe a

6:36 p.m.

Where can one look to determine if managesieve "loaded"? Such as via logs or other some means?

As indicated it did not, AFAICT, bind to 4190 as directed, and no errors appear in logs, via "doveadm log errors".

If there were some configuration error or failure in some startup, should there not be something?

joe a.

On 1/18/2024 18:30:06, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...

Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Aki Tuomi

21 Jan 21 Jan

5:38 p.m.

Another thing i noticed that you are using

login_access_sockets = tcpwrap

I wonder if tcpwrap might be interfering here?

Also, since you are using FreeBSD, can you use sockstat -l to determine if 4190 is listed there anymore?

Did you check that you haven't firewalled the port off?

Aki

...

On 19/01/2024 18:36 EET joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

Where can one look to determine if managesieve "loaded"? Such as via logs or other some means?

As indicated it did not, AFAICT, bind to 4190 as directed, and no errors appear in logs, via "doveadm log errors".

If there were some configuration error or failure in some startup, should there not be something?

joe a.

On 1/18/2024 18:30:06, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...
Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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joe a

6:55 p.m.

I don't see "login_access_sockets = tcpwrap" via dovecot -n and am on openSuse Leap 15.5, not FreeBSD.

However output of socklist -l is attached.

Interestingly, I see tcp6 and udp6 listed. Not sure what that means in this context as IPv6 is not enabled, supposedly, on this unit.

joe a.

On 1/21/2024 10:38:23, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:

...

Another thing i noticed that you are using

login_access_sockets = tcpwrap

I wonder if tcpwrap might be interfering here?

Also, since you are using FreeBSD, can you use sockstat -l to determine if 4190 is listed there anymore?

Did you check that you haven't firewalled the port off?

Aki

...
On 19/01/2024 18:36 EET joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

Where can one look to determine if managesieve "loaded"? Such as via logs or other some means?

As indicated it did not, AFAICT, bind to 4190 as directed, and no errors appear in logs, via "doveadm log errors".

If there were some configuration error or failure in some startup, should there not be something?

joe a.

On 1/18/2024 18:30:06, Joe Acquisto wrote:

...
Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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8 p.m.

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 17:55:

...

I don't see "login_access_sockets = tcpwrap" via dovecot -n and am on openSuse Leap 15.5, not FreeBSD.

However output of socklist -l is attached.

Interestingly, I see tcp6 and udp6 listed. Not sure what that means in this context as IPv6 is not enabled, supposedly, on this unit.

in this case you have still ipv6 binded services, to turn of add only "address = 127.0.0.1" to only listen on loopback ip, for more ip add more

check service containers in dovecot

if address missing in any containers, it equal to listing / binding to all ips

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/service_configuration/#address

for dovecot developpers, is using hostnames good idea to use here ?

joe a

8:42 p.m.

On 1/21/2024 13:00:25, Benny Pedersen wrote:

...

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 17:55:

...
I don't see "login_access_sockets = tcpwrap" via dovecot -n and am on openSuse Leap 15.5, not FreeBSD.

However output of socklist -l is attached.

Interestingly, I see tcp6 and udp6 listed. Not sure what that means in this context as IPv6 is not enabled, supposedly, on this unit.

in this case you have still ipv6 binded services, to turn of add only "address = 127.0.0.1" to only listen on loopback ip, for more ip add more

check service containers in dovecot

if address missing in any containers, it equal to listing / binding to all ips

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/service_configuration/#address

for dovecot developpers, is using hostnames good idea to use here ?

IPv6 does not seem to be bound for dovecot.

I set address = in dovecot.conf. Did not affect the port 4190 not binding.

Do not know what you mean by "containers".

Benny Pedersen

9:13 p.m.

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 19:42:

...

Do not know what you mean by "containers".

service managesieve-login { inet_listener sieve { address = 127.0.0.1 port = 4190 } process_min_avail = 0 service_count = 1 vsz_limit = 64 M } service managesieve { process_limit = 1024 }

what did you add ?

joe a

9:47 p.m.

On 1/21/2024 14:13:14, Benny Pedersen wrote:

...

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 19:42:

...
Do not know what you mean by "containers".

service managesieve-login { inet_listener sieve { address = 127.0.0.1 port = 4190 } process_min_avail = 0 service_count = 1 vsz_limit = 64 M } service managesieve { process_limit = 1024 }

what did you add ?

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Ah, I see what you meant now.

I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, but, still no love from 4190

Benny Pedersen

10:05 p.m.

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47:

...

Ah, I see what you meant now.

good to see progress

...

I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, but, still no love from 4190

check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ?

pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not matter if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in dovecot.conf, order does mater

joe a

11:20 p.m.

On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote:

...

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47:

...
Ah, I see what you meant now.

good to see progress

...
I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, but, still no love from 4190

check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ?

pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not matter if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in dovecot.conf, order does mater

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Attached is that most recent.

I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied package. Could that matter?

Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will attempt to set things up as identically as I can. Just to see what happens.

Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my bad.

Larry Rosenman

11:25 p.m.

Joe A: If you are on FreeBSD, is there a reason you're not using the Ports version (either via pkg or compiled from ports? I'm the FreeBSD port maintainer and am more than happy to help privately if necessary.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:21 PM joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

...

On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote:

...
joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47:

...
Ah, I see what you meant now.

good to see progress

...
I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, but, still no love from 4190

check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ?

pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not matter if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in dovecot.conf, order does mater

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Attached is that most recent.

I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied package. Could that matter?

Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will attempt to set things up as identically as I can. Just to see what happens.

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:21 PM joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote: > joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47: > >> Ah, I see what you meant now. > > good to see progress > >> I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, but, >> still no love from 4190 > > check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ? > > pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not matter > if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in > dovecot.conf, order does mater > > _______________________________________________ > dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org

 Attached is that most recent.

 I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor
 supplied
 package.  Could that matter?

 Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will
 attempt
 to set things up as identically as I can.  Just to see what happens.

 Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my
 bad._______________________________________________
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joe a

22 Jan 22 Jan

12:10 a.m.

On 1/21/2024 16:25:02, Larry Rosenman wrote:

...

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:21 PM joe a mailto:joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote:

On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 > joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47:
 >
 >> Ah, I see what you meant now.
 >
 > good to see progress
 >
 >> I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot,
but,
 >> still no love from 4190
 >
 > check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ?
 >
 > pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not
matter
 > if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in
 > dovecot.conf, order does mater
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Attached is that most recent.

I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied
package.  Could that matter?

Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will attempt
to set things up as identically as I can.  Just to see what happens.

Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my
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Thanks. I am on openSuse LEAP 15.5.

joe a.

Larry Rosenman

12:13 a.m.

oh, I see. I thought I saw FreeBSD mentioned. Sorry for the confusion.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:10 PM joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote:

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On 1/21/2024 16:25:02, Larry Rosenman wrote:

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Joe A: If you are on FreeBSD, is there a reason you're not using the Ports version (either via pkg or compiled from ports? I'm the FreeBSD port maintainer and am more than happy to help privately if necessary.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:21 PM joe a mailto:joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote:
On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 > joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47:
 >
 >> Ah, I see what you meant now.
 >
 > good to see progress
 >
 >> I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot,
but,
 >> still no love from 4190
 >
 > check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ?
 >
 > pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not
matter
 > if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in
 > dovecot.conf, order does mater
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Attached is that most recent.

I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor
supplied package. Could that matter?
Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will
attempt to set things up as identically as I can. Just to see what happens.
Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my
bad._______________________________________________
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Thanks. I am on openSuse LEAP 15.5.

joe a.

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oh, I see. I thought I saw FreeBSD mentioned. Sorry for the confusion.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:10 PM joe a joea-lists@j4computers.com wrote: On 1/21/2024 16:25:02, Larry Rosenman wrote: > Joe A: If you are on FreeBSD, is there a reason you're not using the > Ports version (either via pkg or compiled from ports? > I'm the FreeBSD port maintainer and am more than happy to help privately > if necessary. > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:21 PM joe a mailto:joea-lists@j4computers.com> wrote: > > On 1/21/2024 15:05:13, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 20:47: > > > >> Ah, I see what you meant now. > > > > good to see progress > > > >> I added the local host and the bound NIC IP, restarted dovecot, > but, > >> still no love from 4190 > > > > check your doveconf -n, if missing what i posted, unsure ? > > > > pm me your doveconf -n, i have lost if you already did, does not > matter > > if you have made progress, the addrss is pr service, not global in > > dovecot.conf, order does mater > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > mailto:dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > > Attached is that most recent. > > I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied > package. Could that matter? > > Now setting up a VM as a test with the vendor package and will attempt > to set things up as identically as I can. Just to see what happens. > > Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my > bad._______________________________________________ > dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > mailto:dovecot-leave@dovecot.org > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler <http://www.lerctr.org/ ~ler> > Phone: +1 214-642-9640 (c) E-Mail: larryrtx@gmail.com > mailto:larryrtx@gmail.com > US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106

 Thanks.  I am on openSuse LEAP 15.5.

 joe a.

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Christian Kivalo

21 Jan 21 Jan

11:37 p.m.

...

I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied package. Could that matter? Have you also compiled pigeonhole / managesieve https://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/download.html This provides the managesieve server functionality

Christian Kivalo

joe a

22 Jan 22 Jan

1:24 a.m.

On 1/21/2024 16:37:26, Christian Kivalo wrote:

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...
I should add, I compiled dovecot locally, it is not the vendor supplied package. Could that matter? Have you also compiled pigeonhole / managesieve https://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/download.html This provides the managesieve server functionality

Ah, seems I lied. Apologies. Cognitive decline affects all it seems.

I am using the openSuse package for LEAP 15.5 which declares itself to be Dovecot 2.3.21 and Pigeonhole version 0.5.21

Early on I did download the packages via the dovecot site, but, upon further study (as in RTFDocs) read that openSuse provided everything prepackaged.

dovecot -n, does indicate Pigeonhole exists, so one presumes managesieve is there. Should I be able to find a managesieve binary somewhere?

Perhaps I need to follow this up with OpenSuse rather than annoy people here?

Benny Pedersen

2 a.m.

joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 22:20:

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Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my bad.

check the maillist then :=)

protocols = imap lmtp

add sieve there

more help then i need "netstat -natpu | grep dovecot" output

tux ~ # netstat -natpu | grep dovecot tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:993 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3554/dovecot tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:12340 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3554/dovecot tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:24 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3554/dovecot tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:143 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3554/dovecot tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:4190 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3554/dovecot

from my own tux, i love it :)

note all the love to 127.0.0.1

joe a

4:55 a.m.

On 1/21/2024 19:00:28, Benny Pedersen wrote:

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joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 22:20:

...
Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my bad.

check the maillist then :=)

protocols = imap lmtp

add sieve there

more help then i need "netstat -natpu | grep dovecot" output

tux ~ # netstat -natpu | grep dovecot tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:993             0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:12340         0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:24            0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:143           0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:4190          0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot

from my own tux, i love it :)

note all the love to 127.0.0.1

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No netstat here only ss. But similar options it seems. Only port 143 is bound to dovecot.

joe a

6:40 p.m.

On 1/21/2024 19:00:28, Benny Pedersen wrote:

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joe a skrev den 2024-01-21 22:20:

...
Now, where are my notes? . . . oh, right, my bad.

check the maillist then :=)

protocols = imap lmtp

add sieve there

more help then i need "netstat -natpu | grep dovecot" output

tux ~ # netstat -natpu | grep dovecot tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:993             0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:12340         0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:24            0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:143           0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:4190          0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
3554/dovecot

from my own tux, i love it :)

note all the love to 127.0.0.1

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I don't grasp where you suggest placing "sieve"

Adding it to "protocols = imap lmtp" in 20-managesieve.conf makes no change in output of dovecot -n. To assure my eyes were not deceived by some spell, directed the output of dovecot -n to text files and ran diff against them. No change noted.

To assure myself that 20-managesieve.conf was being considered, I commented out various declarations in the file and repeated the compare. Many differences were noted.

I am left with, given there no obvious errors note in the configuration, the failure of port 4190 to bind must be some curiosity of the OS or the vendor package. That managesieve is not being loaded/activated for some reason?

Is that a reasonable suspicion?

Benny Pedersen

7:52 p.m.

joe a skrev den 2024-01-22 17:40:

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I don't grasp where you suggest placing "sieve"

# grep sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:protocols = imap lmtp sieve

means change

protocols = imap lmtp

protocols = imap lmtp sieve

...

Adding it to "protocols = imap lmtp" in 20-managesieve.conf makes no change in output of dovecot -n.

learn to use grep

tux ~ # grep -r 20- /etc/dovecot/ /etc/dovecot/conf.d/90-sieve.conf:# Do not forget to enable the Sieve plugin in 15-lda.conf and 20-lmtp.conf

tux ~ # grep -r protocols /etc/dovecot/ /etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-managesieve.conf:protocols = $protocols sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:# Most (but not all) settings can be overridden by different protocols and/or /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:protocols = imap lmtp sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf.dist:# Most (but not all) settings can be overridden by different protocols and/or /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf.dist:#protocols = imap pop3 lmtp submission

...

To assure my eyes were not deceived by some spell, directed the output of dovecot -n to text files and ran diff against them. No change noted.

if it did not change anything, revert the changed files

...

To assure myself that 20-managesieve.conf was being considered, I commented out various declarations in the file and repeated the compare. Many differences were noted.

I am left with, given there no obvious errors note in the configuration, the failure of port 4190 to bind must be some curiosity of the OS or the vendor package. That managesieve is not being loaded/activated for some reason?

Is that a reasonable suspicion?

i don't know

i already showed help with how doveconf -n must be in my setup, you could diff this

order of files does matter

joe a

23 Jan 23 Jan

8:58 p.m.

On 1/22/2024 12:52:01, Benny Pedersen wrote:

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joe a skrev den 2024-01-22 17:40:

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I don't grasp where you suggest placing "sieve"

# grep sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:protocols = imap lmtp sieve

means change

protocols = imap lmtp

to

protocols = imap lmtp sieve

...
Adding it to "protocols = imap lmtp" in 20-managesieve.conf makes no change in output of dovecot -n.

learn to use grep

tux ~ # grep -r 20- /etc/dovecot/ /etc/dovecot/conf.d/90-sieve.conf:# Do not forget to enable the Sieve plugin in 15-lda.conf and 20-lmtp.conf

tux ~ # grep -r protocols /etc/dovecot/ /etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-managesieve.conf:protocols = $protocols sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:# Most (but not all) settings can be overridden by different protocols and/or /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:protocols = imap lmtp sieve /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf.dist:# Most (but not all) settings can be overridden by different protocols and/or /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf.dist:#protocols = imap pop3 lmtp submission

...
To assure my eyes were not deceived by some spell, directed the output of dovecot -n to text files and ran diff against them. No change noted.

if it did not change anything, revert the changed files

...
To assure myself that 20-managesieve.conf was being considered, I commented out various declarations in the file and repeated the compare. Many differences were noted.

I am left with, given there no obvious errors note in the configuration, the failure of port 4190 to bind must be some curiosity of the OS or the vendor package. That managesieve is not being loaded/activated for some reason?

Is that a reasonable suspicion?

i don't know

i already showed help with how doveconf -n must be in my setup, you could diff this

order of files does matter

Perhaps I mis understood you earlier.

Adding "sieve" to protocols in dovecot.conf resolved the port binding issue.

I thought having it only in 20-managesieve.conf as "protocols = $protocols sieve" would append "sieve" to the protocols string.

It did not show in "protocols" listed by dovecot -n, but evaded notice, I guess.

joe a

22 Jan 22 Jan

10:21 p.m.

On 1/18/2024 18:30:06, Joe Acquisto wrote:

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Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error. Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Earlier responses aside for the moment, what is this trying to tell me, if anything? No other indications of sieve or managesieve noted.

~: # lsof | grep manage config 19097 root mem REG 0,47 6896 257261 /usr/lib64/dovecot/modules/settings/libmanagesieve_settings.so config 19097 root mem REG 0,47 14696 257260 /usr/lib64/dovecot/modules/settings/libmanagesieve_login_settings.so

joe a

10:50 p.m.

On 1/22/2024 15:21:22, joe a wrote:

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On 1/18/2024 18:30:06, Joe Acquisto wrote:

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Trying to connect to managesieve server configured to port 4190. No go.

Roundcube is configured (thunderbird apparently having nothing current), but selecting "Add Filter" (new since re-configured for managesieve) produces "unable to connect to server".

Port 4190 does not seem to answer or be "bound" to anything. Telnet to 4190 produces "connection refused".

A "one box" solution.

If I had to guess, I would guess, operator error.    Otherwise, things are looking up. But, I remember a movie that said never to do that . . .

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Earlier responses aside for the moment, what is this trying to tell me, if anything? No other indications of sieve or managesieve noted.

~: # lsof | grep manage config    19097                       root mem       REG 0,47
6896     257261 /usr/lib64/dovecot/modules/settings/libmanagesieve_settings.so config    19097                       root mem       REG 0,47
14696     257260 /usr/lib64/dovecot/modules/settings/libmanagesieve_login_settings.so

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To me it suggests "config" has called upon libmangesive"blah" to do something . . . and it choked on it?

Is what is noted in the link below meaningful, accurate?

https://forum.directadmin.com/threads/dovecot-2-3-21-with-pigeonhole.69885/

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