On 11/12/13, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
tell that Noel which is blocking my messages and so did not read what i quoted from Benny's trolling but opens his mouth
tell that Noel which is abusing his power by set complete IP-ranges on RBL lists he maintains because he does not like one person using a mailserver on that range besides many other people
Let us see
Posfix list - BANNED Roundcube List - MODERATED Centos List - MODERATED (maybe banned) Fedora list - 1/ MODERATED - 2/ Had hissy fit temper tantrum with moderators a few days ago about his continual moderation and claimed was quitting fedora list.
Likely has resubscribed to Fedora (if indeed even did quit), like on Postfix under a lists@rhsoft.net address or something similar
and thats only the ones *I* know about.
So, your in a blacklist as well? wouldnt have anything to do with your actions pretty much everywhere would it now, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, of course not.
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics, which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
ciao
Am 13.11.2013 04:49, schrieb Nick Edwards:
Let us see
Posfix list - BANNED
look at the thread history
Roundcube List - MODERATED
because Noel if you look at that threwad
Centos List - MODERATED (maybe banned)
because two postings a long time ago
Fedora list - 1/ MODERATED
- 2/ Had hissy fit temper tantrum with moderators a few days ago about his continual moderation and claimed was quitting fedora list.
users list
on fedora-devel no longer, most likely because my work in writing hundrets of bugreports and testing hundrets of packages all the time
http://kparal.wordpress.com/ http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg189823.html http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/msg68627.html
Likely has resubscribed to Fedora (if indeed even did quit), like on Postfix under a lists@rhsoft.net address or something similar
for sure not on the users list
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics
so what, i and many others also do not like people which obviously not trying one second to search for existing solutins about topics explained many thousand times and they continue to refuse reading basic docs
which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
read the thread, they demanded to live by he "fedora code of conduct" even off-list and everywhere
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
there do not need to be vitims at all
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
you are a fool because you are blocking many other domains and most likely not a single message from me on a mailing-list because it arrives from the list-IP
knowing that and using such a RBL on a company server should lead in you get fired because incompetence
Guys,
I don't wanna get involved with your internal beef, but some of us have real issues getting Dovecot to work as we need it to...
If you could focus your efforts and considerable knowledge on helping others then this list would be much better for it.
-Mark
On 13 November 2013 10:35, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 13.11.2013 04:49, schrieb Nick Edwards:
Let us see
Posfix list - BANNED
look at the thread history
Roundcube List - MODERATED
because Noel if you look at that threwad
Centos List - MODERATED (maybe banned)
because two postings a long time ago
Fedora list - 1/ MODERATED
- 2/ Had hissy fit temper tantrum with moderators a few days ago about his continual moderation and claimed was quitting fedora list.
users list
on fedora-devel no longer, most likely because my work in writing hundrets of bugreports and testing hundrets of packages all the time
http://kparal.wordpress.com/ http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg189823.html http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/msg68627.html
Likely has resubscribed to Fedora (if indeed even did quit), like on Postfix under a lists@rhsoft.net address or something similar
for sure not on the users list
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics
so what, i and many others also do not like people which obviously not trying one second to search for existing solutins about topics explained many thousand times and they continue to refuse reading basic docs
which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
read the thread, they demanded to live by he "fedora code of conduct" even off-list and everywhere
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
there do not need to be vitims at all
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
you are a fool because you are blocking many other domains and most likely not a single message from me on a mailing-list because it arrives from the list-IP
knowing that and using such a RBL on a company server should lead in you get fired because incompetence
*yawn* you just dont get it do you, you have brought EVERYTHING upon yourself, no one else to blame, only YOU
because you make a couple of helpful posts does not give you the right to continue to abuse everyone like you repeatedly do
and as for blacklist, I am the operations centre manager cant fire myselfl and you need oi be reminded of why blacklists are there
they are there to stop trouble makers, as one example you on roundcube list have a habit of CC direct abuse at people, you probably do it everywhere too, the blacklist might not stop your trolling on lists but it saves people getting direct inbox abuse trash from you.
if you are so worried about your other domains being rejected then MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR BRAIN INTO GEAR FIRSTand STOP ABUSING PEOPLE, it can not be made more clear, that is understandable by eve a 5 yo child, but apparently not you!
On 11/13/13, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
for sure not on the users list
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics
so what, i and many others also do not like people which obviously not trying one second to search for existing solutins about topics explained many thousand times and they continue to refuse reading basic docs
which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
read the thread, they demanded to live by he "fedora code of conduct" even off-list and everywhere
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
there do not need to be vitims at all
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
you are a fool because you are blocking many other domains and most likely not a single message from me on a mailing-list because it arrives from the list-IP
knowing that and using such a RBL on a company server should lead in you get fired because incompetence
Am 13.11.2013 11:49, schrieb Nick Edwards:
*yawn* you just dont get it do you, you have brought EVERYTHING upon yourself, no one else to blame, only YOU
stop the whining, if i do not want to read a mail from someone else i simply do not read it and for this i do not need anbodys help
because you make a couple of helpful posts does not give you the right to continue to abuse everyone like you repeatedly do
maybe too people are that whinery and feel absued and victimed on a ridiculous base
and as for blacklist, I am the operations centre manager cant fire myselfl
well, than you can't be in a important operations centre because if so you would not be permitted to make such a stupid decision at your own for anybody else
and you need oi be reminded of why blacklists are there
blacklists are to drop message from spam-servers
they are there to stop trouble makers, as one example you on roundcube list have a habit of CC direct abuse at people, you probably do it everywhere too, the blacklist might not stop your trolling on lists but it saves people getting direct inbox abuse trash from you.
again: if i do not want to read a mail from someone else i simply do not read it and for this i do not need anbodys help
if you are so worried about your other domains being rejected then MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR BRAIN INTO GEAR FIRSTand STOP ABUSING PEOPLE, it can not be made more clear, that is understandable by eve a 5 yo child, but apparently not you!
even a 5 yo child understands that blocking complete class C networks because someone does not like a single person means you are not qualified to be responsible for any production server
On 11/13/13, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
for sure not on the users list
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics
so what, i and many others also do not like people which obviously not trying one second to search for existing solutins about topics explained many thousand times and they continue to refuse reading basic docs
which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
read the thread, they demanded to live by he "fedora code of conduct" even off-list and everywhere
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
there do not need to be vitims at all
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
you are a fool because you are blocking many other domains and most likely not a single message from me on a mailing-list because it arrives from the list-IP
knowing that and using such a RBL on a company server should lead in you get fired because incompetence
On 11/13/13, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
well, than you can't be in a important operations centre because if so you would not be permitted to make such a stupid decision at your own for anybody else
you're very correct, we only have about 31 thousand shared web hosts, 705 thousand DSL customers and a few thousand satellite, ISDN and dialup customers, so true, we are not that big, but you dont have to be big to protect people from your abusive crap.
and you need oi be reminded of why blacklists are there
blacklists are to drop message from spam-servers
WRONG
Go do some homework, blacklists have since their inception, had multiple lists, varying from stopping dynamic users sending mail, spammers, fraudsters, ABUSIVE TOSSERS, open relays, to name but only some, I do not know where you got the notion they are only for blocking spammers, but you are sadly mistaken.
even a 5 yo child understands that blocking complete class C networks because someone does not like a single person means you are not qualified to be responsible for any production server
hello brick wall please to meet you I said hello brick wall, please to meet you helooooo brickkk walllllllll oh fine.
.. well, I might as well be talking to a brick wall, because it would listen as much .. no, probably more than you do.
*sigh*
Halo Nick, Yes agree Riendl has sent me direct foul mouth abuse from this list, I have my staff now enabling this blacklist too.
He filtered out now on lists too, wont see him bullying potty mouth again
good ridden
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Nick Edwards nick.z.edwards@gmail.comwrote:
*yawn* you just dont get it do you, you have brought EVERYTHING upon yourself, no one else to blame, only YOU
because you make a couple of helpful posts does not give you the right to continue to abuse everyone like you repeatedly do
and as for blacklist, I am the operations centre manager cant fire myselfl and you need oi be reminded of why blacklists are there
they are there to stop trouble makers, as one example you on roundcube list have a habit of CC direct abuse at people, you probably do it everywhere too, the blacklist might not stop your trolling on lists but it saves people getting direct inbox abuse trash from you.
if you are so worried about your other domains being rejected then MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR BRAIN INTO GEAR FIRSTand STOP ABUSING PEOPLE, it can not be made more clear, that is understandable by eve a 5 yo child, but apparently not you!
On 11/13/13, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
for sure not on the users list
Taking into account all of the above, I think its fair to say, its more than one person that doesn't like your foul mouthed antics
so what, i and many others also do not like people which obviously not trying one second to search for existing solutins about topics explained many thousand times and they continue to refuse reading basic docs
which was explained to you many times by fedora moderators, trying to get you to change, all you had to do, and they would remove moderation, but you refused, so you deserve it, no one else to blame but yourself
read the thread, they demanded to live by he "fedora code of conduct" even off-list and everywhere
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM
there do not need to be vitims at all
blocked using bl.alt-backspace.org; This range is used by caustic Internet troll Harald Reindl h.reindl@thelounge.net / ACCESS DENIED - see http://www.alt-backspace.org/usage.php#misc (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Awesome! Thanks for that, I have just enabled bl.alt-backspace.org on our company servers
you are a fool because you are blocking many other domains and most likely not a single message from me on a mailing-list because it arrives from the list-IP
knowing that and using such a RBL on a company server should lead in you get fired because incompetence
Am 13.11.2013 12:04, schrieb Edwardo Garcia:
Yes agree Riendl has sent me direct foul mouth abuse from this list, I have my staff now enabling this blacklist too. He filtered out now on lists too, wont see him bullying potty mouth again good ridden
says the one responding off-list himself
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot MTA Datum: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:54:04 +1000 Von: Edwardo Garcia wdgarc88@gmail.com An: Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Nick Edwards nick.z.edwards@gmail.comwrote:
*yawn* you just dont get it do you, you have brought EVERYTHING upon yourself, no one else to blame, only YOU
because you make a couple of helpful posts does not give you the right to continue to abuse everyone like you repeatedly do
and as for blacklist, I am the operations centre manager cant fire myselfl and you need oi be reminded of why blacklists are there
they are there to stop trouble makers, as one example you on roundcube list have a habit of CC direct abuse at people, you probably do it everywhere too, the blacklist might not stop your trolling on lists but it saves people getting direct inbox abuse trash from you.
if you are so worried about your other domains being rejected then MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR BRAIN INTO GEAR FIRSTand STOP ABUSING PEOPLE, it can not be made more clear, that is understandable by eve a 5 yo child, but apparently not you!
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 20:49 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote:
*yawn* you just dont get it do you, you have brought EVERYTHING upon yourself, no one else to blame, only YOU
Please take this off list? or preferentially, stop wasting your time, I spent a couple days off list, and a colleague of mine spent a further few days explaining to him why he was getting kicked off and moderated on so many lists, and blacklisted, he just doesnt care, in his mind, its ok to abuse people for any reason, he refuses to change.
As for listed in dnsbl, the same thing would happen if he was reported to spamcop or sorbs, or any other list. Listings are to punish the offenders to force them to mend their ways, it was not just because he was abusing me in private, I filtered him out, but he was reported as (and witnessed to) abusing multiple persons from multiple lists, when it was reported by Fedora list members (as not a subscriber to it my colleague spent some time on their archives, and he is an even bitter jerk over there) directly, and via CC, given his attitude of " I do no wrong ", and his threats of having multiple domains, it was decided his IP range would be listed, this would not likely affect him too much given they are in Austria, and although we do have a couple of German services using it last time I looked, most the users are Asia Pacific, and US with some in UK, meaning, it shouldnt really affect his business, but it will stop his rhetoric spewing into some personal mailboxes in those regions, shame it did not affect his business in a way, because then his employer might force him to change his attitude. Oh, and yes, he was told by myself and others how to get this listing removed - he refuses.
The above is informational and not open for any discussion, on, or off-list, I refuse to comment any further on it... or any of his threads really :)
because you make a couple of helpful posts does not give you the right to continue to abuse everyone like you repeatedly do
+1
Am 14.11.2013 00:08, schrieb Noel Butler:
As for listed in dnsbl, the same thing would happen if he was reported to spamcop or sorbs, or any other list. Listings are to punish the offenders to force them to mend their ways
no, they are for block mass mails and junk not for playing internet police because oyu disklike someone personally
it was not just because he was abusing me in private, I filtered him out
which is your right
and his threats of having multiple domains, it was decided his IP range would be listed
in case of a @gmail-address you would be too cowardly to block all google ranges
when it was reported by Fedora list members (as not a subscriber to it my colleague spent some time on their archives, and he is an even bitter jerk over there)
that must be the reason for https://www.google.com/search?q=please+discontinue+to+moderate+Haralds+posts
because then his employer might force him to change his attitude
you must feel really good by misuse you pwoer as RBL admin
The above is informational and not open for any discussion, on, or off-list, I refuse to comment any further on it... or any of his threads really :)
and you believe someone takes you really serious in case of this behavior "hey, i creep out of my hole to say sinething because a stripped quote and go back in ignore mode not looking left or right"?
in which world do you live that you really think you need to protect it? yes, i know, you do ignore my posts - and that is why you better should have been quite instead speak in my direction, if you have something to say accept answers or do not say anything at all
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One thing I enjoy about the Postfix lists is that when Wietse steps in and tells people to STFU, they do.
Ignoring Timo's request to do the same is disrespecting him and his work.
Charles
On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 14.11.2013 00:08, schrieb Noel Butler:
As for listed in dnsbl, the same thing would happen if he was reported to spamcop or sorbs, or any other list. Listings are to punish the offenders to force them to mend their ways
no, they are for block mass mails and junk not for playing internet police because oyu disklike someone personally
it was not just because he was abusing me in private, I filtered him out
which is your right
and his threats of having multiple domains, it was decided his IP range would be listed
in case of a @gmail-address you would be too cowardly to block all google ranges
when it was reported by Fedora list members (as not a subscriber to it my colleague spent some time on their archives, and he is an even bitter jerk over there)
that must be the reason for https://www.google.com/search?q=please+discontinue+to+moderate+Haralds+posts
because then his employer might force him to change his attitude
you must feel really good by misuse you pwoer as RBL admin
The above is informational and not open for any discussion, on, or off-list, I refuse to comment any further on it... or any of his threads really :)
and you believe someone takes you really serious in case of this behavior "hey, i creep out of my hole to say sinething because a stripped quote and go back in ignore mode not looking left or right"?
in which world do you live that you really think you need to protect it? yes, i know, you do ignore my posts - and that is why you better should have been quite instead speak in my direction, if you have something to say accept answers or do not say anything at all
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and why did you not respond exactly the same to Noel Butler?
Am 14.11.2013 00:44, schrieb Charles Sprickman:
One thing I enjoy about the Postfix lists is that when Wietse steps in and tells people to STFU, they do.
Ignoring Timo's request to do the same is disrespecting him and his work.
Charles
On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 14.11.2013 00:08, schrieb Noel Butler:
As for listed in dnsbl, the same thing would happen if he was reported to spamcop or sorbs, or any other list. Listings are to punish the offenders to force them to mend their ways
no, they are for block mass mails and junk not for playing internet police because oyu disklike someone personally
it was not just because he was abusing me in private, I filtered him out
which is your right
and his threats of having multiple domains, it was decided his IP range would be listed
in case of a @gmail-address you would be too cowardly to block all google ranges
when it was reported by Fedora list members (as not a subscriber to it my colleague spent some time on their archives, and he is an even bitter jerk over there)
that must be the reason for https://www.google.com/search?q=please+discontinue+to+moderate+Haralds+posts
because then his employer might force him to change his attitude
you must feel really good by misuse you pwoer as RBL admin
The above is informational and not open for any discussion, on, or off-list, I refuse to comment any further on it... or any of his threads really :)
and you believe someone takes you really serious in case of this behavior "hey, i creep out of my hole to say sinething because a stripped quote and go back in ignore mode not looking left or right"?
in which world do you live that you really think you need to protect it? yes, i know, you do ignore my posts - and that is why you better should have been quite instead speak in my direction, if you have something to say accept answers or do not say anything at all
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Charles Sprickman
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IT geek 31
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Nick Edwards
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Noel Butler
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Reindl Harald