[Dovecot] dead bodies stacking up in Drafts folder
Hi,
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot
1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.
Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
When I start writing a mail, it appears in the drafts folder, and
usually disappear as desired when I hit "Send". It then appear in the
"Sent" folder.
Sometimes, a draft versions stays in "Drafts", I have 21 of them
since 1.1.2007. In this period, I have written about 400 emails, so
only about 5 % stick in "Drafts".
I can of course periodically select and delete them, but I don't like
such glitches. Never sure if emails are really sent.
Advice welcome. I'm the Solaris packager and admin so I can test
things if needed.
Sorry if it's a known Apple Mail issue, I would be the one to beat
for using closed-source stuff :-)
Charles
-- Charles Bueche charles@bueche.ch sand, snow, wave, wind and net -surfer A-Cat SUI 192
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot 1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.
Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
When I start writing a mail, it appears in the drafts folder, and usually disappear as desired when I hit "Send". It then appear in the "Sent" folder.
Sometimes, a draft versions stays in "Drafts", I have 21 of them since 1.1.2007. In this period, I have written about 400 emails, so only about 5 % stick in "Drafts".
For what its worth - I have had this problem ever since I started using IMAP... we had it when we used Courier-imap, and we have it using dovecot (both on linux, using Thunderbird for the client)... It is kind of irritating, but I kind of got used to it, and tell people to just delete these on a regular basis...
Not that I wouldn't like to see this problem fixed... ;)
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Best regards,
Charles
Charles Marcus schrieb:
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot 1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.
Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
When I start writing a mail, it appears in the drafts folder, and usually disappear as desired when I hit "Send". It then appear in the "Sent" folder.
Sometimes, a draft versions stays in "Drafts", I have 21 of them since 1.1.2007. In this period, I have written about 400 emails, so only about 5 % stick in "Drafts".
For what its worth - I have had this problem ever since I started using IMAP... we had it when we used Courier-imap, and we have it using dovecot (both on linux, using Thunderbird for the client)... It is kind of irritating, but I kind of got used to it, and tell people to just delete these on a regular basis...
Not that I wouldn't like to see this problem fixed... ;)
Hi, i never noticed such behavior using thunderbird imap ( linux , windows ) with courier or dovecot, are you sure that its not setup related? After all apple mail seems to be broken with imap
-- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Best Regards
Robert Schetterer
https://www.schetterer.org Munich/Bavaria/Germany
i never noticed such behavior using thunderbird imap ( linux , windows ) with courier or dovecot, are you sure that its not setup related? After all apple mail seems to be broken with imap
I always thought it may be related to the 'Auto-save' option in TBird, because most people here in our office use it (including me). It seems that any message that gets auto-saved is a prime candidate for this happening.
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Best regards,
Charles
Charles Marcus schrieb:
i never noticed such behavior using thunderbird imap ( linux , windows ) with courier or dovecot, are you sure that its not setup related? After all apple mail seems to be broken with imap
I always thought it may be related to the 'Auto-save' option in TBird, because most people here in our office use it (including me). It seems that any message that gets auto-saved is a prime candidate for this happening.
Hi, sorry i have this option too and i never noticed any problem with thunderbird , it works like it should and never something unexpected happend. My Mailbox on courier is filled with thousends of mails in many folders with sub folders , sent emails are auto copied to the sent folder, and if i want something be saved as draft it work like it should. I heavily tested dovecot with thunderbird before i got the server opened to now 1000 Users ( mostly outlook ) and i have no bug reports The only bug wich were reported come from apple mail with courier by magic double mail
Mit freundlichen Gruessen Best Regards
Robert Schetterer
https://www.schetterer.org Munich/Bavaria/Germany
Robert Schetterer wrote:
Charles Marcus schrieb:
i never noticed such behavior using thunderbird imap ( linux , windows ) with courier or dovecot, are you sure that its not setup related? After all apple mail seems to be broken with imap
I always thought it may be related to the 'Auto-save' option in TBird, because most people here in our office use it (including me). It seems that any message that gets auto-saved is a prime candidate for this happening.
Hi, sorry i have this option too and i never noticed any problem with thunderbird , it works like it should and never something unexpected happend.
I can confirm that draft duplication occurs here as well with Thunderbird's auto-save and Dovecot (don't have a courier install handy atm, but I assume would be the same there).
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On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:38 AM, Charles Bueche wrote:
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot
1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
I see the same thing under both Dovecot and courier-imap. I've
chalked it up to Mail.app glitches. I haven't actually looked to see
what happens with other mail clients.
- -Barry
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:38:02AM +0100, Charles Bueche wrote:
I can of course periodically select and delete them, but I don't like
such glitches. Never sure if emails are really sent.
I've had this problem with Courier too. Even worse, there have been some issues where changes to drafts haven't been saved to the server, losing hours of work. Since I seldom need to "port" drafts from one machine to the other I've just turned off "save copies of drafts on server".
-- Nicholas Riley njriley@uiuc.edu | http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/njriley
Hi,
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot
1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
When I start writing a mail, it appears in the drafts folder, and
usually disappear as desired when I hit "Send". It then appear in the
"Sent" folder.Sometimes, a draft versions stays in "Drafts", I have 21 of them
since 1.1.2007. In this period, I have written about 400 emails, so
only about 5 % stick in "Drafts".I can of course periodically select and delete them, but I don't like
such glitches. Never sure if emails are really sent.
Apple Mail will auto-save messages to the drafts folder if you idle too long while composing. This could also happen if the computer goes to sleep. I know of no way to disable this. However, there is an option in the preferences on the accounts tab under mailbox behaviors to save it to the server, you could disable that.
Kenny Dail kend@amigo.net
Hi again,
Thanks for all the high-quality feedback. Using a local folder
(instead of storing "Drafts" on the IMAP server) solved the issue.
BTW : thanks Timo and others for this amazing piece of code. It's so
fast, even for IMAP boxes containing 20'000+ messages, that I don't
see any reason to use local mailboxes anymore.
Best regards, Charles
On 12 févr. 07, at 09:38, Charles Bueche wrote:
Hi,
Setup : Apple Mail 2.1.1 (752.3) on Intel MacBook Pro and Dovecot
1.0rc22 on Solaris 9/SPARC. I use IMAP/TLS.Problem : mails are stacking up in the Drafts folder.
When I start writing a mail, it appears in the drafts folder, and
usually disappear as desired when I hit "Send". It then appear in
the "Sent" folder.Sometimes, a draft versions stays in "Drafts", I have 21 of them
since 1.1.2007. In this period, I have written about 400 emails, so
only about 5 % stick in "Drafts".I can of course periodically select and delete them, but I don't
like such glitches. Never sure if emails are really sent.Advice welcome. I'm the Solaris packager and admin so I can test
things if needed.Sorry if it's a known Apple Mail issue, I would be the one to beat
for using closed-source stuff :-)Charles
-- Charles Bueche charles@bueche.ch sand, snow, wave, wind and net -surfer A-Cat SUI 192
-- Charles Bueche charles@bueche.ch sand, snow, wave, wind and net -surfer A-Cat SUI 192
participants (7)
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Barry Warsaw
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Charles Bueche
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Charles Marcus
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Kenny Dail
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Nicholas Riley
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Peter Fern
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Robert Schetterer