[Dovecot] Issue Authenticating to a new dovecot-postfix installation
(Apologies if this is a resend, but I thought I had received a bounceback message.)
I have installed dovecot-postfix and postfixadmin on an Ubuntu 9.10 machine. The userdb and passdb are both mysql. If I set up a user in postfixadmin they are able to send. I can successfully telnet into the server remotely by name on 110 and 25. I'm not looking for any authentication encryption/ssl any of that, just POP3/SMTP. When I telnet into 110 I can enter a username with user [username] then when I do pass [password] I get -ERR Authentication failed. I know the user info is correct. When I set up an account in Outlook Express I get "There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your Password was rejected:" Also saying -ERR Authentication failed.'. (0x800ccc90,0x800ccc92) So basically the same thing. I can attach the tutorial I used in as a .doc if that would help. Anyway, here is my relevant info I think.
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dovecot-sql.conf GREP
driver = mysql connect = host=localhost dbname=postfix user=postfix password=password default_pass_scheme = PLAIN user_query = SELECT '/var/vmail/%d/%n' as home, 'maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n' as mail, 150 AS uis, 8 AS gid, concat(dirsize:storage=',quota) AS quota FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%u' AND active = 1 password_query = SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail/%d/%n' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%u' AND active = 1
root@mail:/etc/dovecot# dovecot -n # 1.1.11: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf Error: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 1076: Unknown section type (section changed in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf at line 1038) Fatal: Invalid configuration in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
Starting line 1076---> master { # Master socket provides access to userdb information. It's typically # used to give Dovecot's local delivery agent access to userdb so it # can find mailbox locations. path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master mode = 0660 # Default user/group is the one who started dovecot-auth (root) user = vmail group = mail }
# SQL database
I don't understand the issue with these lines. They refer to dovecot.conf though. The config file is clearly dovecot-postfix.conf so I am confused as to why the other matters. I had noticed changes only when I changed dovecot.conf though. (In dovecot -n output)
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 15:09 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
When I telnet into 110 I can enter a username with user [username] then when I do pass [password] I get -ERR Authentication failed. I know the user info is correct.
Setting auth_debug_passwords=yes and looking at the logs would tell exactly why it's failing. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Logging
root@mail:/etc/dovecot# dovecot -n # 1.1.11: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf Error: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 1076: Unknown section type (section changed in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf at line 1038)
In Ubuntu Dovecot is started with -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf, so the dovecot.conf isn't used at all. In your dovecot -n output you'd need to give the same -c parameter. Why they decided to do it like this, I've no idea.
Anyway.. What this means is that:
Starting line 1076---> master {
Apparently master {} isn't inside socket listen {} block, as it should be.
Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 15:09 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
When I telnet into 110 I can enter a username with user [username] then when I do pass [password] I get -ERR Authentication failed. I know the user info is correct.
Setting auth_debug_passwords=yes and looking at the logs would tell exactly why it's failing. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Logging
root@mail:/etc/dovecot# dovecot -n # 1.1.11: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf Error: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 1076: Unknown section type (section changed in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf at line 1038)
In Ubuntu Dovecot is started with -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf, so the dovecot.conf isn't used at all. In your dovecot -n output you'd need to give the same -c parameter. Why they decided to do it like this, I've no idea.
Anyway.. What this means is that:
Starting line 1076---> master {
Apparently master {} isn't inside socket listen {} block, as it should be.
Here is the latest portion of my log attempting to log in with a user that I created in postfixadmin. The telnet session opened fine and it gave +OK for the user. Then I got -ERR Authentication failed for the password. This is the log of it...
Dec 30 15:22:21 mail dovecot: dovecot v1.1.11 starting up (core dumps disabled) Dec 30 15:22:22 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4333 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4334 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4335 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4336 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4337 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4339 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4338 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4340 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4341 Dec 31 11:06:23 mail postfix/smtpd[4935]: connect from hoot.bldwn-tel.com[64.33.164.10] Dec 31 11:06:25 mail postfix/smtpd[4935]: disconnect from hoot.bldwn-tel.com[64.33.164.10] Dec 31 11:06:27 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4939 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=48288#011resp=AHJha2thAHJha2th Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka' AND active = 1 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): unknown user Dec 31 11:06:36 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111#011user=rakka Dec 31 11:06:37 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=<rakka>, method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
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Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 15:09 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
When I telnet into 110 I can enter a username with user [username] then when I do pass [password] I get -ERR Authentication failed. I know the user info is correct.
Setting auth_debug_passwords=yes and looking at the logs would tell exactly why it's failing. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Logging
root@mail:/etc/dovecot# dovecot -n # 1.1.11: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf Error: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 1076: Unknown section type (section changed in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf at line 1038)
In Ubuntu Dovecot is started with -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf, so the dovecot.conf isn't used at all. In your dovecot -n output you'd need to give the same -c parameter. Why they decided to do it like this, I've no idea.
Anyway.. What this means is that:
Starting line 1076---> master {
Apparently master {} isn't inside socket listen {} block, as it should be.
I get no error when I run dovecot -n -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf, just an extremely large output. Here is the latest portion of my log attempting to log in with a user that I created in postfixadmin. The telnet session opened fine and it gave +OK for the user. Then I got -ERR Authentication failed for the password. This is the log of it...
Dec 30 15:22:21 mail dovecot: dovecot v1.1.11 starting up (core dumps disabled) Dec 30 15:22:22 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4333 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4334 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4335 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4336 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4337 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4339 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4338 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4340 Dec 30 15:22:23 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4341 Dec 31 11:06:23 mail postfix/smtpd[4935]: connect from hoot.bldwn-tel.com[64.33.164.10] Dec 31 11:06:25 mail postfix/smtpd[4935]: disconnect from hoot.bldwn-tel.com[64.33.164.10] Dec 31 11:06:27 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=4939 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=48288#011resp=AHJha2thAHJha2th Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka' AND active = 1 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): unknown user Dec 31 11:06:36 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111#011user=rakka Dec 31 11:06:37 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=<rakka>, method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
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On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 11:18 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka' AND active = 1 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): unknown user
Run the SQL query in mysql. Apparently there's no such row with username='rakka' and active=1.
I guess you should be logging in as rakka@domain, not rakka..
Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 11:18 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka' AND active = 1 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): unknown user
Run the SQL query in mysql. Apparently there's no such row with username='rakka' and active=1.
I guess you should be logging in as rakka@domain, not rakka..
I noticed that the statement has /var/vmail//rakka. Is the // ok? I'm not sure what else could be wrong with the SQL part. Postfixadmin should have populated the database right? It said it did on the setup.
I tried with rakka@domain and this is my log on that attempt
Dec 31 11:42:50 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=5575 Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=50836#011resp=AHJha2thIAhAYmFsZHRlbC5jb20AcmFra2E= Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): auth(?,64.33.164.10): Invalid username: rakka ?@baldtel.com Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): plain(?,64.33.164.10): Username contains disallowed character: 0x20 Dec 31 11:43:01 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111 Dec 31 11:43:03 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
Now that was the output of mail.log. I am having an issue in mail.err also I guess. Here's the most recent output of that.
Dec 31 11:33:29 mail postfix/master[5377]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 82: field "private": bad value: "--n"
And this is the statement on 82.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:mail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf -f ${sender} -d $(recipient)
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Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 11:18 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail//rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka' AND active = 1 Dec 31 11:06:34 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka,64.33.164.10): unknown user
Run the SQL query in mysql. Apparently there's no such row with username='rakka' and active=1.
I guess you should be logging in as rakka@domain, not rakka..
(sorry about double emails if they're showing up, should have that fixed) I noticed that the statement has /var/vmail//rakka. Is the // ok? I'm not sure what else could be wrong with the SQL part. Postfixadmin should have populated the database right? It said it did on the setup.
I tried with rakka@domain and this is my log on that attempt
Dec 31 11:42:50 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=5575 Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=50836#011resp=AHJha2thIAhAYmFsZHRlbC5jb20AcmFra2E= Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): auth(?,64.33.164.10): Invalid username: rakka ?@baldtel.com Dec 31 11:42:59 mail dovecot: auth(default): plain(?,64.33.164.10): Username contains disallowed character: 0x20 Dec 31 11:43:01 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111 Dec 31 11:43:03 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
Now that was the output of mail.log. I am having an issue in mail.err also I guess. Here's the most recent output of that.
Dec 31 11:33:29 mail postfix/master[5377]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 82: field "private": bad value: "--n"
And this is the statement on 82.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:mail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf -f ${sender} -d $(recipient)
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:41 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
I noticed that the statement has /var/vmail//rakka. Is the // ok?
That's because the %d is empty.
I tried with rakka@domain and this is my log on that attempt
AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=50836#011resp=AHJha2thIAhAYmFsZHRlbC5jb20AcmFra2E=
Decode the resp base64 string above. You'll see that after "user" there's a space and backspace character. So it looks like your test was just broken because backspace wasn't working correctly.
Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:41 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
I noticed that the statement has /var/vmail//rakka. Is the // ok?
That's because the %d is empty.
I tried with rakka@domain and this is my log on that attempt
AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=50836#011resp=AHJha2thIAhAYmFsZHRlbC5jb20AcmFra2E=
Decode the resp base64 string above. You'll see that after "user" there's a space and backspace character. So it looks like your test was just broken because backspace wasn't working correctly.
Ok, I didn't use backspace this time. Here's the output from mail.log
Dec 31 13:02:48 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=5604 Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=54542#011resp=AHJha2thQGJhbGR0ZWwuY29tAHJha2th Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail/baldtel.com/rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail/baldtel.com/rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka@baldtel.com' AND active = 1 Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): Password mismatch Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): PLAIN(rakka) != '$1$f82c98f9$/vrwt3aZHWM/5j1pjEhVZ1' Dec 31 13:03:02 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111#011user=rakka@baldtel.com Dec 31 13:03:03 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=rakka@baldtel.com, method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
It looks like it worked, but didn't like the password. Is that right? I don't see how the password could be wrong, but I can make another user to check that.
Any thoughts on the error in mail.err? Did I get that part into the last message?
Thanks for all the help also.
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Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:41 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
I noticed that the statement has /var/vmail//rakka. Is the // ok?
That's because the %d is empty.
I tried with rakka@domain and this is my log on that attempt
AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=50836#011resp=AHJha2thIAhAYmFsZHRlbC5jb20AcmFra2E=
Decode the resp base64 string above. You'll see that after "user" there's a space and backspace character. So it looks like your test was just broken because backspace wasn't working correctly.
Ok, I didn't use backspace this time. Here's the output from mail.log
Dec 31 13:02:48 mail dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection: pid=5604 Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth(default): client in: AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=pop3#011lip=192.168.1.9#011rip=64.33.164.10#011lport=110#011rport=54542#011resp=AHJha2thQGJhbGR0ZWwuY29tAHJha2th Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to localhost (postfix) Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): query: SELECT username as user, password, '/var/vmail/baldtel.com/rakka' as userdb_home,'maildir:/var/vmail/baldtel.com/rakka' as userdb_mail, 150 as userdb_uid, 8 as userdb_gid FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'rakka@baldtel.com' AND active = 1 Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): Password mismatch Dec 31 13:03:00 mail dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): PLAIN(rakka) != '$1$f82c98f9$/vrwt3aZHWM/5j1pjEhVZ1' Dec 31 13:03:02 mail dovecot: auth(default): client out: FAIL#0111#011user=rakka@baldtel.com Dec 31 13:03:03 mail dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=rakka@baldtel.com, method=PLAIN, rip=64.33.164.10, lip=192.168.1.9
It looks like it worked, but didn't like the password. Is that right? I don't see how the password could be wrong, but I can make another user to check that.
Any thoughts on the error in mail.err? Did I get that part into the last message?
Thanks for all the help also.
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 13:37 -0600, Anthony Nedland wrote:
sql(rakka@baldtel.com,64.33.164.10): PLAIN(rakka) != '$1$f82c98f9$/vrwt3aZHWM/5j1pjEhVZ1'
See the PLAIN(rakka). It assumes the '$1$f82..' is in plaintext, while it's really md5-crypt. Set default_pass_scheme = md5-crypt to dovecot-sql.conf.
Dec 31 11:33:29 mail postfix/master[5377]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 82: field "private": bad value: "--n" .. dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:mail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf -f ${sender} -d $(recipient)
Dunno. Above the private field appears to be "-" (the one after unix). I don't know why Postfix would see it as "--n".
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:55:51 -0500 Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi articulated:
Dec 31 11:33:29 mail postfix/master[5377]: fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 82: field "private": bad value: "--n"
.. dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:mail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf -f ${sender} -d $(recipient)Dunno. Above the private field appears to be "-" (the one after unix). I don't know why Postfix would see it as "--n".
Maybe asking Wietse Venema wietse@porcupine.org might prove insightful.
-- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com
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On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 16:21 -0500, Jerry wrote:
Maybe asking Wietse Venema wietse@porcupine.org might prove insightful.
I'm pretty sure Wietse would prefer people to ask questions in mailing list (like me).
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:55:39 -0500 Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi articulated:
I'm pretty sure Wietse would prefer people to ask questions in mailing list (like me).
As a regular end user, I would certainly agree. However, as a developer of a piece of software that is commonly used in conjunction with his product, that he might be inclined to discuss the matter in a more personal setting.
-- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com
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On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 17:41 -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:55:39 -0500 Timo Sirainen tss@iki.fi articulated:
I'm pretty sure Wietse would prefer people to ask questions in mailing list (like me).
As a regular end user, I would certainly agree. However, as a developer of a piece of software that is commonly used in conjunction with his product, that he might be inclined to discuss the matter in a more personal setting.
Some questions, maybe, but the Postfix problem that Anthony had didn't have much to do with Dovecot interaction. My guess is that it is some kind of a typo or maybe he's somehow looking at wrong file/line or some other similar small mistake. No need for me to go do anything in the middle. :)
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 16:21 -0500, Jerry wrote:
Dunno. Above the private field appears to be "-" (the one after unix). I don't know why Postfix would see it as "--n".
Maybe asking Wietse Venema wietse@porcupine.org might prove insightful.
wouldnt do that, he gets very touchy with people emailing him directly, he wants people to sub to his useless err i mean users mailing list :)
I asked him why postfix double lookups and looks up other stuff after its got a clear "not here", he said not to email him personally send to list, where it was also ignored, so i wouldnt waste my time asking him :)
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:01:30 +1000 Noel Butler noel.butler@ausics.net articulated:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 16:21 -0500, Jerry wrote:
Dunno. Above the private field appears to be "-" (the one after unix). I don't know why Postfix would see it as "--n".
Maybe asking Wietse Venema wietse@porcupine.org might prove insightful.
wouldnt do that, he gets very touchy with people emailing him directly, he wants people to sub to his useless err i mean users mailing list :)
I asked him why postfix double lookups and looks up other stuff after its got a clear "not here", he said not to email him personally send to list, where it was also ignored, so i wouldnt waste my time asking him :)
Obviously, I failed to properly clarify what i meant by "asking" in my original post. I was referring to the Dovecot developer, not the OP. sorry for the confusion.
Second, I totally disagree with your claim that his mail forum is useless. I have on several occasions posted quires and received rapid responses. By the way, I do not remember seeing your post on the forum. Then again, I might have just missed it. In addition, you do know what time of the year it is, didn't you? Many individuals like myself have better things to do than slave over our PCs waiting to answer questions. Nothing personal; it is just a fact of life.
Might I suggest the following.
Read all of the documentation at: http://www.postfix.com/DEBUG_README.html
Get a copy of "postfinger" http://ftp.wl0.org/postfinger/postfinger-1.30
Depending on your system, you man have to run it as root. Use it and save the output.
There is also an SASL test program available at: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/ if you should ever need it.
Now, post the unedited file you saved from the output of "postfinger" to the Postfix forum. Include all relevant and unedited log file entities. I am reasonably sure that you will receive a reply to your post. Be sure to start a 'new' post. Don't just continue the one you posted previously.
I hope that this procedure will aid you in finding a solution to your predicament.
Have a Happy New Year!
-- Gerard gerard@seibercom.net
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On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 06:52 -0500, Gerard wrote:
Second, I totally disagree with your claim that his mail forum is useless. I have on several occasions posted quires and received rapid responses. By the way, I do not remember seeing your post on the forum.
Yep, I got a copy of it back so it obviously went to the list.
Then again, I might have just missed it. In addition, you do know what time of the year it is, didn't you? Many individuals like myself have better things to do than slave over our PCs waiting to answer questions.
What has this got to do with anything, It was well before Christmas.
Might I suggest the following.
<postfix blurbs removed>
to the Postfix forum. Include all relevant and unedited log file
Why? I sent all the relevant information pertaining to my query, no need to send non-related crap.
The mater is over as far as I'm concerned, if the postfix author doesn't want to consider his software is doing more work than it needs to (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, hence my question), then, as I use a replicated local databases on each front end server and it's not a problem here (I only saw what it was doing debugging a failed user login w/mysql) then that's not my problem, case closed :)
Happy New Year as well.
On 2010-01-01, Noel Butler (noel.butler@ausics.net) wrote:
Then again, I might have just missed it. In addition, you do know what time of the year it is, didn't you? Many individuals like myself have better things to do than slave over our PCs waiting to answer questions.
What has this got to do with anything, It was well before Christmas.
It was 12/10/09... two weeks... pretty close if you ask me, lots of people take 2-3 week vacations during this time of year.
to the Postfix forum. Include all relevant and unedited log file
Why? I sent all the relevant information pertaining to my query, no need to send non-related crap.
What you might consider 'non-related crap' is often necessary to answer your question, which is why it is required (per the welcome message you get when subscribing) when asking for help.
No question that the postfix users list is pretty strict about form, but the help available there is top notch, as long as you leave your attitude at the door.
What has this got to do with anything, It was well before Christmas.
It was 12/10/09... two weeks... pretty close if you ask me, lots of people take 2-3 week vacations during this time of year.
Oh... and the only message that shows up in the archives is the follow-up you posted yourself on the 15th - the original is nowhere to be found.
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 19:00 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
What has this got to do with anything, It was well before Christmas.
It was 12/10/09... two weeks... pretty close if you ask me, lots of people take 2-3 week vacations during this time of year.
Oh... and the only message that shows up in the archives is the follow-up you posted yourself on the 15th - the original is nowhere to be found.
as stated im not going to bore this list, however a 6 sec search found it in neohapsis archives.
this is not the postfix users list, so this part of the thread is ended as far as im concerned so it can go back to helping the OP. I have said all i am saying, so i wont be bothering with this thread from this point on, because you and I will likely just dispute whatever the other says and piss people off by OT crap..
On 2009-12-31 7:01 PM, Noel Butler wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 16:21 -0500, Jerry wrote:
Dunno. Above the private field appears to be "-" (the one after unix). I don't know why Postfix would see it as "--n".
Maybe asking Wietse Venema wietse@porcupine.org might prove insightful.
wouldnt do that, he gets very touchy with people emailing him directly,
Understandable...
he wants people to sub to his useless err i mean users mailing list :)
Funny... not... the postfix list is one of the more useful lists I've ever been subscribed to - almost as useful as the dovecot list, but not as friendly...
I asked him why postfix double lookups and looks up other stuff after its got a clear "not here", he said not to email him personally send to list, where it was also ignored, so i wouldnt waste my time asking him :)
So one question fell through the cracks a couple of weeks before Christmas (lots of people get busy this time of year), so you rudely slam him and the postfix list? Not very nice.
Maybe you should ask your question again, and maybe it would help if you followed the instructions per the welcome message you received when you joined the list:
TO REPORT A PROBLEM see: http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
At a minimum, postfix version, output of postconf -n and unedited NON-verbose logs exhibiting the problem should be provided...
These comments coming from you, are not surprising given who you are, so i wont bother this list with any further reply, because i'm sure the other trolls and fanbois will come out the woodwork..
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 18:49 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
he wants people to sub to his useless err i mean users mailing list :)
Funny... not... the postfix list is one of the more useful lists I've ever been subscribed to - almost as useful as the dovecot list, but not as friendly...
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Anthony Nedland
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Charles Marcus
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Gerard
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Jerry
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