Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new mails
Dovecot version: 2.3.7.2 (3c910f64b) (pkg shipped by: Ubuntu-Desktop 20.04)
I want to accomplish 2 things in dovecot:
1: I want to force all mails inside Trash to have an "opened"/"read" flag and "Non-Recent" flag. Basically Status: RO This regardless how the flag appears, either by copying/moving the mail into trash, creating a new mail in trash, flagging email in Trash or whatever.
Basically, no email in Trash should ever be able to have a recent or unread flag.
I tried with a static mail filter and sieve filter to add \\seen to the email upon COPY (as mentioned here: https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2017-November/110122.html ), but regardless how I do it, it doesn't work when Samsung Email client trashes an unread email, AND/OR also, it causes weird issues like duplicate email in the trash folder sometimes.
Best would be some event filter that executes for every mail that somehow end up in Trash, that checks if \\seen is present, if not, then it will add it, on all emails in trash? But how I do to prevent the duplicate copy that appears sometimes?
2: I want to prohibit email clients from ever creating a new mail in Sent folder. If its possible to allow MOVE and/or COPY, it should be allowed, only new mail should be prohibited. (also note that external processes must be able to create new mail in Sent)
HOWEVER - this prohibition must be silent - ergo the newly created email is simply discarded. No error message or error codes should be returned to IMAP client.
(The reason I want this, is because I have configured my outgoing SMTP server to populate Sent, and some email clients doesn't have the option to "Don't store a copy of the email in Sent folder" resulting in duplicates)
Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen
Someone just told me about imapsieve. Sieve rules for folders. I assume that could solve your issue.
https://wiki.dovecot.org/HowTo/AntispamWithSieve
-----Original Message----- Sent: 09 May 2020 17:32 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new mails
Dovecot version: 2.3.7.2 (3c910f64b) (pkg shipped by: Ubuntu-Desktop 20.04)
I want to accomplish 2 things in dovecot:
1: I want to force all mails inside Trash to have an "opened"/"read" flag and "Non-Recent" flag. Basically Status: RO This regardless how the flag appears, either by copying/moving the mail into trash, creating a new mail in trash, flagging email in Trash or whatever.
Basically, no email in Trash should ever be able to have a recent or unread flag.
I tried with a static mail filter and sieve filter to add \\seen to the email upon COPY (as mentioned here: https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2017-November/110122.html ), but regardless how I do it, it doesn't work when Samsung Email client trashes an unread email, AND/OR also, it causes weird issues like duplicate email in the trash folder sometimes.
Best would be some event filter that executes for every mail that somehow end up in Trash, that checks if \\seen is present, if not, then it will add it, on all emails in trash? But how I do to prevent the duplicate copy that appears sometimes?
2: I want to prohibit email clients from ever creating a new mail in Sent folder. If its possible to allow MOVE and/or COPY, it should be allowed, only new mail should be prohibited. (also note that external processes must be able to create new mail in Sent)
HOWEVER - this prohibition must be silent - ergo the newly created email is simply discarded. No error message or error codes should be returned to IMAP client.
(The reason I want this, is because I have configured my outgoing SMTP server to populate Sent, and some email clients doesn't have the option to "Don't store a copy of the email in Sent folder" resulting in duplicates)
Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen
I tried with following:
require ["imap4flags"]; if not hasflag :is "\\Seen" { setflag "\\Seen"; }
And then this in plugins.conf:
plugin { sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve imapsieve_mailbox1_name = Trash imapsieve_mailbox1_before = file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve }
It works in outlook, the mail is opened (mark as read) when it goes to trash. But in Samsung Email it doesn't work. (or it works when I select in Samsung email, "Move to Folder" and then "Trash", but if I select "Delete", the mail is trashed without becoming read)
(I have checked, the sieve script gets executed)
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org <dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org> För Marc Roos Skickat: den 9 maj 2020 18:30 Till: dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Ämne: RE: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new ma
Someone just told me about imapsieve. Sieve rules for folders. I assume that could solve your issue.
https://wiki.dovecot.org/HowTo/AntispamWithSieve
-----Original Message----- Sent: 09 May 2020 17:32 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new mails
Dovecot version: 2.3.7.2 (3c910f64b) (pkg shipped by: Ubuntu-Desktop 20.04)
I want to accomplish 2 things in dovecot:
1: I want to force all mails inside Trash to have an "opened"/"read" flag and "Non-Recent" flag. Basically Status: RO This regardless how the flag appears, either by copying/moving the mail into trash, creating a new mail in trash, flagging email in Trash or whatever.
Basically, no email in Trash should ever be able to have a recent or unread flag.
I tried with a static mail filter and sieve filter to add \\seen to the email upon COPY (as mentioned here: https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2017-November/110122.html ), but regardless how I do it, it doesn't work when Samsung Email client trashes an unread email, AND/OR also, it causes weird issues like duplicate email in the trash folder sometimes.
Best would be some event filter that executes for every mail that somehow end up in Trash, that checks if \\seen is present, if not, then it will add it, on all emails in trash? But how I do to prevent the duplicate copy that appears sometimes?
2: I want to prohibit email clients from ever creating a new mail in Sent folder. If its possible to allow MOVE and/or COPY, it should be allowed, only new mail should be prohibited. (also note that external processes must be able to create new mail in Sent)
HOWEVER - this prohibition must be silent - ergo the newly created email is simply discarded. No error message or error codes should be returned to IMAP client.
(The reason I want this, is because I have configured my outgoing SMTP server to populate Sent, and some email clients doesn't have the option to "Don't store a copy of the email in Sent folder" resulting in duplicates)
Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen
Another problem, is that running discard; on the Sent folder, just marks the email for deletion - ergo it gets a strike-through. It doesn't get deleted. Tried with both Before and After.
Otherwise, the discard; on Sent folder works fine - ergo it only selects emails that were written through IMAP, it doesn't select emails written from appendfile in exim4, which is good.
So now I somehow need to get exim4 to actually delete the email completely and not just mark it for deletion.
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Sebastian Nielsen <sebastian@sebbe.eu> Skickat: den 9 maj 2020 19:33 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: SV: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new ma
I tried with following:
require ["imap4flags"]; if not hasflag :is "\\Seen" { setflag "\\Seen"; }
And then this in plugins.conf:
plugin { sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve imapsieve_mailbox1_name = Trash imapsieve_mailbox1_before = file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve }
It works in outlook, the mail is opened (mark as read) when it goes to trash. But in Samsung Email it doesn't work. (or it works when I select in Samsung email, "Move to Folder" and then "Trash", but if I select "Delete", the mail is trashed without becoming read)
(I have checked, the sieve script gets executed)
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org <dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org> För Marc Roos Skickat: den 9 maj 2020 18:30 Till: dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> Ämne: RE: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new ma
Someone just told me about imapsieve. Sieve rules for folders. I assume that could solve your issue.
https://wiki.dovecot.org/HowTo/AntispamWithSieve
-----Original Message----- Sent: 09 May 2020 17:32 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating new mails
Dovecot version: 2.3.7.2 (3c910f64b) (pkg shipped by: Ubuntu-Desktop 20.04)
I want to accomplish 2 things in dovecot:
1: I want to force all mails inside Trash to have an "opened"/"read" flag and "Non-Recent" flag. Basically Status: RO This regardless how the flag appears, either by copying/moving the mail into trash, creating a new mail in trash, flagging email in Trash or whatever.
Basically, no email in Trash should ever be able to have a recent or unread flag.
I tried with a static mail filter and sieve filter to add \\seen to the email upon COPY (as mentioned here: https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2017-November/110122.html ), but regardless how I do it, it doesn't work when Samsung Email client trashes an unread email, AND/OR also, it causes weird issues like duplicate email in the trash folder sometimes.
Best would be some event filter that executes for every mail that somehow end up in Trash, that checks if \\seen is present, if not, then it will add it, on all emails in trash? But how I do to prevent the duplicate copy that appears sometimes?
2: I want to prohibit email clients from ever creating a new mail in Sent folder. If its possible to allow MOVE and/or COPY, it should be allowed, only new mail should be prohibited. (also note that external processes must be able to create new mail in Sent)
HOWEVER - this prohibition must be silent - ergo the newly created email is simply discarded. No error message or error codes should be returned to IMAP client.
(The reason I want this, is because I have configured my outgoing SMTP server to populate Sent, and some email clients doesn't have the option to "Don't store a copy of the email in Sent folder" resulting in duplicates)
Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen
On 10/5/20 3:33 am, Sebastian Nielsen wrote:
And then this in plugins.conf:
plugin { sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve imapsieve_mailbox1_name = Trash imapsieve_mailbox1_before = file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve }
Maybe adding this will help...
imapsieve_mailbox1_causes = COPY FLAG
Doesn't work in Samsung Email still. And with COPY FLAG set, it doesn't work with outlook either. You need APPEND for it to work in outlook.
It currently works in outlook with either no causes restriction, or with COPY FLAG APPEND. But not in Samsung Email.
And what I understand, leaving .causes out, should have it match ALL causes.
If I look in the dovecot.log with debugging on, it looks like this:
May 10 03:53:38 imap-login: Info: Login: user=<sebastian@sebbe.eu>,
method=PLAIN, rip=192.168.2.2, lip=192.168.1.10, mpid=3385220,
session=<U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Loading modules from directory: /usr/lib/dovecot/modules
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Module loaded: /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lib95_imap_sieve_plugin.so
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Added userdb setting: plugin/=yes
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Effective uid=1001, gid=1001, home=
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Namespace inbox: type=private, prefix=, sep=, inbox=yes, hidden=no,
list=yes, subscriptions=yes
location=mbox:/var/mail/asterisk2:INBOX=/var/mail/asterisk
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
fs: root=/var/mail/asterisk2, index=, indexpvt=, control=,
inbox=/var/mail/asterisk, alt=
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Mailbox INBOX: Mailbox opened because: SELECT
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Mailbox Trash: Mailbox opened because: UID MOVE
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
Mailbox INBOX: UID 1068: Opened mail because: copying
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
imapsieve: mailbox Trash: MOVE event
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Error:
User sebastian@sebbe.eu doesn't have home dir set, disabling duplicate
database
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Pigeonhole version 0.5.7.2 () initializing
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Sieve imapsieve plugin for Pigeonhole version 0.5.7.2 () loaded
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
imapsieve: Static mailbox rule [1]: mailbox=Trash' from=*' causes=(COPY
FLAG APPEND) => before=file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve' after=file:/etc/dovecot/>
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
imapsieve: Static mailbox rule [2]: mailbox=Sent' from=*' causes=(APPEND)
=> before=(none) after=file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/sent.sieve' May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: imapsieve: Matched static mailbox rule [1] May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: file storage: Using Sieve script path: /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: file script: Opened script trash' from
/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve' May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: file storage: Using Sieve script path: /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: file script: Opened script trash' from
/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve' May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: Opening script 1 of 2 from /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve'
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Loading script /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Script binary /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin successfully loaded
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: binary save: not saving binary /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin,
because it is already stored
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Executing script from /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin' May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug: sieve: Opening script 2 of 2 from /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve'
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Loading script /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Script binary /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin successfully loaded
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: binary save: not saving binary /etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin,
because it is already stored
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Debug:
sieve: Executing script from `/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.svbin'
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Info:
sieve: left message in mailbox 'Trash'
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385218><hp3Bf0GlZqvAqAIC>: Info:
Connection closed (SELECT finished 0.127 secs ago) in=77 out=928 deleted=0
expunged=0 trashed=0 hdr_count=0 hdr_bytes=0 body_count=0 body_bytes=0
May 10 03:53:38 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385220><U4PCf0GlaKvAqAIC>: Info:
Connection closed (CLOSE finished 0.010 secs ago) in=160 out=1192 deleted=0
expunged=0 trashed=1 hdr_count=0 hdr_bytes=0 body_count=0 body_bytes=0
May 10 03:53:44 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385185><wmBDdkGlxP/AqARk>: Debug:
Mailbox Trash: Mailbox opened because: SELECT
May 10 03:53:44 imap(sebastian@sebbe.eu)<3385185><wmBDdkGlxP/AqARk>: Debug:
Mailbox Trash: UID 1190: Opened mail because: full mail
Then in trash, its still unread.
-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org <dovecot-bounces@dovecot.org> För Mark Constable Skickat: den 10 maj 2020 03:48 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: Re: SV: Marking all emails in "Trash" as opened, and also prohibiting email clients from creating ne
On 10/5/20 3:33 am, Sebastian Nielsen wrote:
And then this in plugins.conf:
plugin { sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve imapsieve_mailbox1_name = Trash imapsieve_mailbox1_before = file:/etc/dovecot/sieve/trash.sieve }
Maybe adding this will help...
imapsieve_mailbox1_causes = COPY FLAG
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Marc Roos
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Mark Constable
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Sebastian Nielsen