Timo,

Thanks for bringing it up.

I dealt with i18n MUA. I would love to see i18n from IMAPEXT (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5255.txt) be part of IMAP5, the mechanism, not all language translations, of course :)

And I guess no MUA needs to 'ENABLE' anything in IMAP5.

Joseph

PS. I had subscribed to the mailing list :)

Timo Sirainen wrote:

If anyone's interested, especially client developers. It's been a bit quiet there after the initial rush.

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From: Randall Gellens randy@qualcomm.com Date: August 1, 2008 5:08:39 AM EDT To: ietf-imapext@imc.org, morg@ietf.org Subject: [MORG] IMAP5 List

At the MORG BOF, a discussion as to if the proposed IMAP extensions would merely further add to the existing problem with IMAP being too hard to get right, for both clients and servers, let to a revival of the "IMAP5" discussion (previous held during the IMAP EAI discussions). Here, "IMAP5" refers to a Big Switch (new port and version) to distinguish this revision from current IMAP. The goal is to delete as much as possible from IMAP.

A new mailing list now exists for this discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP to make it easier to implement clients and servers.

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It's been observed that "most IMAP clients suck" and that it's hard for both clients and servers to implement.

One reason IMAP is hard to implement is that it has a lot of options. Often there are several alternative ways to accomplish something. It also has considerable functionality.

Is it possible and desirable to start with the current set of (IMAP + all extensions) and consider subtracting as much as possible? The resulting protocol would still be IMAP, but not backwards-compatible with today's IMAP, since some currently-mandated items are likely to be deleted.

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